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Date:      Sat, 8 Oct 2022 16:25:24 -0700
From:      paul beard <paulbeard@gmail.com>
To:        Pat Maddox <pat@patmaddox.com>
Cc:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: pkg upgrade vs building from source
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On Sat, Oct 8, 2022 at 3:34 PM Pat Maddox <pat@patmaddox.com> wrote:

> Do you use pkg only, or do you have a mix of ports and packages? I ask
> because you mention going back to ports and it working=E2=80=A6 my unders=
tanding is
> generally you want to use ports xor pkg, not mix them.
>
> Also you might consider using latest pkg instead of quarterly, as it=E2=
=80=99s
> going to be more current and thus have any fixes that might not be in
> quarterly yet.
>
> But if you are mixing ports and pkg, I would start there. It=E2=80=99s po=
ssible
> you have pretty recent ports, mixed with old-ish (quarterly) pkg, and tha=
t
> could certainly cause issues.
>
>
It would be best to rely on one or the other, to be sure. Pkg handles the
registration of ports/pkgs alike so not sure if I can query if a port was
built from source or as a pkg. I don't think I have installed many from
source, just postfix for certain. That may have been unduly hasty.

Further analysis tells me pkg might not be where this originated. A lot of
the files in /usr/local/etc/postfix were touched on a date and time when I
wasn't available to do that=E2=80=A6so that's interesting. This morning I f=
ound
that some files were touched at 14:08 on Monday Oct 3. I looked at the
weekly mirror/backup and the same files are all dated Sept 6 when I got
this all working again. Nothing should have changed between then and now.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Oct 8, 2022 at 3:34 PM Pat Maddox=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pat@patmaddox.com">pat@patmaddox.com</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,2=
04,204);padding-left:1ex">Do you use pkg only, or do you have a mix of port=
s and packages? I ask because you mention going back to ports and it workin=
g=E2=80=A6 my understanding is generally you want to use ports xor pkg, not=
 mix them.<br>
<br>
Also you might consider using latest pkg instead of quarterly, as it=E2=80=
=99s going to be more current and thus have any fixes that might not be in =
quarterly yet.<br>
<br>
But if you are mixing ports and pkg, I would start there. It=E2=80=99s poss=
ible you have pretty recent ports, mixed with old-ish (quarterly) pkg, and =
that could certainly cause issues.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div>It would be best to rely on one or the othe=
r, to be sure. Pkg handles the registration=C2=A0of ports/pkgs alike so not=
 sure if I can query if a port was built from source or as a pkg. I don&#39=
;t think I have installed many from source, just postfix for certain. That =
may have been unduly hasty.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><br></div=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote">Further analysis=C2=A0tells me pkg might not be=
 where this originated. A lot of the files in /usr/local/etc/postfix were t=
ouched on a date and time when I wasn&#39;t available to do that=E2=80=A6so=
 that&#39;s interesting. This morning I found that some files were touched =
at 14:08 on Monday Oct 3. I looked at the weekly mirror/backup=C2=A0and the=
 same files are all dated Sept 6 when I got this all working again. Nothing=
 should have changed between then and now.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote"><div>=C2=A0</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature"><br=
></div></div>

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