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Date:      Sun, 8 Sep 2024 09:14:50 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Loader needs to be updated message
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On Sun, Sep 8, 2024, 7:50=E2=80=AFAM void <void@f-m.fm> wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 07, 2024 at 09:34:27PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> >
> >Yes. If you are getting the too old error, then there is a preupdate wor=
ld
> >booting a stable/13 after my change I think.
> >
> >Warner
>
> So, on the server (15.0-CURRENT #0 n270917-5dbf886104b4: Thu Jul  4 )
>
> ls -lah /boot/gptzfsboot
> -r--r--r--  1 root wheel  172K Jul  4 17:26 /boot/gptzfsboot
>

Gptzfsboot is not relevant. Userboot.ko would be since that's what provides
the loader interfaces for bhyve.

In the VM (13.4-STABLE stable/13-n258323-e7b4f6e0c064 Sep 6)
>
> ls -lah /boot/gptzfsboot
> -r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   151K Sep  6 23:57 /boot/gptzfsboot
>
> to reiterate:- both these systems are root-on-zfs
>
> Do you think a source upgrade on the server would fix the issue?
>

Yes. But the warning at this time isn't super urgent for you. It is telling
you of problems in the future.

related: do you think i'd have avoided the issue if the guest was ufs only?
>

No. This is a host vs guest crossthreading that's unavoidable.

Warner

>

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Sep 8, 2024, 7:50=E2=80=AFAM void &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:void@f-m.fm">void@f-m.fm</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pa=
dding-left:1ex">On Sat, Sep 07, 2024 at 09:34:27PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote=
:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Yes. If you are getting the too old error, then there is a preupdate wo=
rld<br>
&gt;booting a stable/13 after my change I think.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Warner<br>
<br>
So, on the server (15.0-CURRENT #0 n270917-5dbf886104b4: Thu Jul=C2=A0 4 )<=
br>
<br>
ls -lah /boot/gptzfsboot<br>
-r--r--r--=C2=A0 1 root wheel=C2=A0 172K Jul=C2=A0 4 17:26 /boot/gptzfsboot=
<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">=
Gptzfsboot is not relevant. Userboot.ko would be since that&#39;s what prov=
ides the loader interfaces for bhyve.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div=
 dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
In the VM (13.4-STABLE stable/13-n258323-e7b4f6e0c064 Sep 6)<br>
<br>
ls -lah /boot/gptzfsboot<br>
-r--r--r--=C2=A0 1 root=C2=A0 wheel=C2=A0 =C2=A0151K Sep=C2=A0 6 23:57 /boo=
t/gptzfsboot<br>
<br>
to reiterate:- both these systems are root-on-zfs<br>
<br>
Do you think a source upgrade on the server would fix the issue?<br></block=
quote></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Yes. But th=
e warning at this time isn&#39;t super urgent for you. It is telling you of=
 problems in the future.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
related: do you think i&#39;d have avoided the issue if the guest was ufs o=
nly?<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"au=
to">No. This is a host vs guest crossthreading that&#39;s unavoidable.=C2=
=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Warner=C2=A0</div><d=
iv dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
</blockquote></div></div></div>

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