Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2025 19:59:57 -0700 From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> To: Mark Linimon <linimon@portsmon.org> Cc: Sulev-Madis Silber <freebsd-hackers-freebsd-org952@ketas.si.pri.ee>, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] df: correct BLOCKSIZE handling for -k to use 1K-blocks (290710) Message-ID: <CANCZdfprduu7SZ-aA2GC8ya1nLit_bcH2a8tV=ZQD1J6%2B2Q_2Q@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1497323956.336174.1764124966236@privateemail.com> References: <CAEw80_2bA-NgE_XF0KVr55PSUDGEQTWGE7t9rpxOhykY1MsSvA@mail.gmail.com> <CANCZdfo9XbAKcgtSw953hpwc9jegzPhaVtfk7DtYTKdoHRnkUg@mail.gmail.com> <1789299192.176069.1764023439861@privateemail.com> <20251125082605.0cb9ab55a2c71a415b575c41@dec.sakura.ne.jp> <86h5ui7qd5.fsf@ltc.des.dev> <20251125214658.eb1e0cdf9df97601b9e28de9@dec.sakura.ne.jp> <774F9B09-B506-4F8E-B293-CE705F64B77A@ketas.si.pri.ee> <1497323956.336174.1764124966236@privateemail.com>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] On Tue, Nov 25, 2025 at 7:43 PM Mark Linimon <linimon@portsmon.org> wrote: > > On 11/25/2025 8:05 PM CST Sulev-Madis Silber < > freebsd-hackers-freebsd-org952@ketas.si.pri.ee> wrote: > > > > the amount of time needed to battle with dev tools should be instead > used just to dev stuff. > > I understand your frustration. > > But while this is true, there are ways to use git that do not > actually require this level of effort. > Yes. that's why we did git arc. With it, the level of effort is quite low. It's also why we're working on getting a more integrated solution so that we can review patches off a submitted branch more easily. github is a stop-gap, at best. So yes, git + git-arc + arcanist + php-the-the-right-version(8.4) is a bit much to install, but it works well enough that I manage 100 branches with it. > I am _certainly_ not a git expert and so I struggle with it, so > I am not the right person to give you advice, but IIUC you are > having more difficulty than most of the other contributors have. > OTH, there is no bad intent here. Please take these into account. > Yes. It can be frustrating to learn the 'paved path' that we have. And I'll be the first to admit that 'bushwhacking' a solution is going to be a very, very hard time. One that I'm afraid I can't help with since it takes a lot of my time that means I can't help a larger number of others that are on or near the 'paved path.' I'm sorry. Warner [-- Attachment #2 --] <div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 25, 2025 at 7:43 PM Mark Linimon <<a href="mailto:linimon@portsmon.org">linimon@portsmon.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">> On 11/25/2025 8:05 PM CST Sulev-Madis Silber <<a href="mailto:freebsd-hackers-freebsd-org952@ketas.si.pri.ee" target="_blank">freebsd-hackers-freebsd-org952@ketas.si.pri.ee</a>> wrote:<br> > <br> > the amount of time needed to battle with dev tools should be instead used just to dev stuff.<br> <br> I understand your frustration.<br> <br> But while this is true, there are ways to use git that do not<br> actually require this level of effort.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes. that's why we did git arc. With it, the level of effort is quite low.</div><div><br></div><div>It's also why we're working on getting a more integrated solution so that we can review patches off a submitted branch more easily. github is a stop-gap, at best. So yes, git + git-arc + arcanist + php-the-the-right-version(8.4) is a bit much to install, but it works well enough that I manage 100 branches with it.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> I am _certainly_ not a git expert and so I struggle with it, so<br> I am not the right person to give you advice, but IIUC you are<br> having more difficulty than most of the other contributors have.<br> OTH, there is no bad intent here. Please take these into account.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes. It can be frustrating to learn the 'paved path' that we have. And I'll be the first to admit that 'bushwhacking' a solution is going to be a very, very hard time. One that I'm afraid I can't help with since it takes a lot of my time that means I can't help a larger number of others that are on or near the 'paved path.' I'm sorry.</div><div><br></div><div>Warner</div></div></div>
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