Date: Mon, 26 May 2025 08:36:05 -0600 From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> To: Dennis Clarke <dclarke@blastwave.org> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: With poudriere how does one create a jail of a slightly older RELEASE ? Message-ID: <CANCZdfqQwsBaM8X-VhqZnQ%2BfrfrW%2BpMGKBsgaKR%2BP8UQwCpsgg@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <e0cc3bf8-aaa8-444a-bb9a-64f7bc047d17@blastwave.org> References: <F52C672E-DD47-4347-87C3-3D39ADB717AD.ref@yahoo.com> <F52C672E-DD47-4347-87C3-3D39ADB717AD@yahoo.com> <e2fe2e32-ac7c-4185-8c97-47838b62a22b@blastwave.org> <20250526151416.68ff7c09.grembo@freebsd.org> <e0cc3bf8-aaa8-444a-bb9a-64f7bc047d17@blastwave.org>
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On Mon, May 26, 2025 at 8:14=E2=80=AFAM Dennis Clarke <dclarke@blastwave.or= g> wrote: > > On 5/26/25 09:14, Michael Gmelin wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, 26 May 2025 08:25:50 -0400 > > Dennis Clarke <dclarke@blastwave.org> wrote: > > > > >> I have no idea what "MFC" is supposed to mean. > >> I guess it is a code change that happened somewhere. > >> > > > > Merge From Current =3D Merging or back-porting a base commit from CURRE= NT > > (main/base/HEAD) to another, usually lower, FreeBSD version branch. > > > > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Glossary#MFC_--_Merge_From_Current > > > > -m > > > > So many places with special terms and stuff buried somewhere. In the > last week or so I have discovered https://archive.freebsd.org/ and now > there is https://wiki.freebsd.org/ which I have not ever seen once in > five or six years of trying to use FreeBSD. Maybe a link or something > can be put on the "About" page? https://www.freebsd.org/about/ Yes. We have our own Jargon that has evolved over the years. Many of the terms are used so frequently we forget that people new to the project might not understand them. > Even more crazy is the way in which FreeBSD is changed and/or fixed. > There are bug reports of course but it seems everything really happens > in a thing called a Phabricator. Well, it's even more complicated than that... We have Bugzilla to get bug reports, which sometimes have patches. Historically, these patches have bee= n neglected, in no small part because many of our developers have a hard time saying 'no' especially to something that's ambiguously incorrect or that touches a complicated-to-fix area of the tree. Next up is Phabricator, which developers use to review changes, but sometimes non-developers use it, but we have had a hard time managing that process, so changes often get lost. Third, we have github pull requests now that I've been trying to establish as a better-managed place to go to contribute. > It really is a great UNIX implementation and runs like a charm as a > server but the skills required are all over the place and no where and > everywhere and yeah ... thanks to this mail list I can at least keep a > few things running. To quote a really cool guy that is an expert at such > things "If it breaks you can keep both pieces." We also do try to document everything in the FreeBSD handbook, but sometimes it's a bit out of date because there's been lots of change and innovation over the years. Warner
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