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Date:      Fri, 11 Aug 2023 12:51:25 -0400
From:      Joe Schaefer <joesuf4@gmail.com>
To:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: can sftp be made multi-threaded?
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% split -n $(nproc) foo.pdf; ls x* | xargs -P 0 -J % scp %
 user@bar.example.com:%; rm x*; ssh user@bar.example.com sh -c =E2=80=9Ccat=
 x* >
foo.pdf; rm x*=E2=80=9D

On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 12:27 PM Joe Schaefer <joesuf4@gmail.com> wrote:

> If it=E2=80=99s just a single file, split it into chunks.
>
> On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 12:25 PM Joe Schaefer <joesuf4@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Why don=E2=80=99t you just use xargs -P until you=E2=80=99ve exhausted y=
our CPU capacity?
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 10:10 AM void <void@f-m.fm> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 12:21:33PM +0100, Jamie Landeg-Jones wrote:
>>>
>>> >rsync just spawns an ssh command, so would probably behave similarly.
>>>
>>> I'm hoping that rsync will spawn many ssh. Need to look at max sessions
>>> on both ends of the connection.
>>>
>>> Since encountering the described problem, the person at the other
>>> end is away for the week so have not been able to test thoroughly.
>>> What I have been able to test shows that there is spiky latency
>>> in the connection, as well as slow speed, single-threaded.
>>>
>>> >Another thing, scp transfers from my test Rpi2 are much slower than th=
e
>>> network
>>> >can handle due to the CPU use, which hits 100% on one cpu whilst it's
>>> running.
>>> >So, check that CPU isn't the bottleneck too.
>>>
>>> Yup. That won't be happening here. Dual xenon with 56 cores at remote
>>> end and same (but with 32 cores) at this end
>>>
>>> >As for the speed, I just tested sftp to transfer a file of random data=
,
>>> 2 GB in
>>> >size from one FreeBSD box in London to another in France:
>>> >
>>> >The final result was:
>>> >
>>> > 100% 2000MB  43.5MB/s   00:46  (Note, that's MegaBYTES/s)
>>>
>>> I ran a similar test.
>>> Sending system is on synchronous gigabit fibre on US east coast,
>>> receiving system is near London on 110/21 fibre (so, gigabit in the
>>> sending
>>> direction):
>>>
>>> 100% 2000MB   7.2MB/s   04:36
>>>
>>> using rsync -azP : 2,097,152,000 100%    6.81MB/s    0:04:53 (xfr#1,
>>> to-chk=3D0/1)
>>>
>>> the speed fluctulates a lot. Both systems are quiet in a network and OS
>>> sense
>>> for the duration of the test.
>>>
>>> >The London box is pretty old, and is a virtual host scheduled to be
>>> decomissioned.
>>> >It is running an old openssl 1.X, openssh 8.8 and is a single core
>>> 2.4Ghz amd64 box.
>>> >
>>> >The France box is a 4 core bare metal 3.1Ghz and64 running openssh 9.2
>>> and openssl 1.1.1
>>>
>>> both ends here are running very recent -current, so ssl/ssh is
>>> OpenSSH_9.3p1, OpenSSL 3.0.9 30 May 2023
>>>
>>> >Anything more I can tell you that may help?
>>>
>>> Thanks very much for your input. I'm certain it's not a freebsd problem=
.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>

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<div dir=3D"auto">% split -n $(nproc) foo.pdf; ls x* | xargs -P 0 -J % scp =
% =C2=A0user@bar.example.com:%; rm x*; ssh <a href=3D"mailto:user@bar.examp=
le.com">user@bar.example.com</a> sh -c =E2=80=9Ccat x* &gt; foo.pdf; rm x*=
=E2=80=9D</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 12:27 PM Joe Schaefer &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:joesuf4@gmail.com">joesuf4@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-lef=
t-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(=
204,204,204)"><div dir=3D"auto">If it=E2=80=99s just a single file, split i=
t into chunks.</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cl=
ass=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 12:25 PM Joe Schaefer &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:joesuf4@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">joesuf4@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0=
px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;bor=
der-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir=3D"auto">Why don=E2=80=99t you ju=
st use xargs -P until you=E2=80=99ve exhausted your CPU capacity?</div><div=
 dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cl=
ass=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 10:10 AM void &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:void@f-m.fm" target=3D"_blank">void@f-m.fm</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left=
-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(2=
04,204,204)">On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 12:21:33PM +0100, Jamie Landeg-Jones w=
rote:<br>
<br>
&gt;rsync just spawns an ssh command, so would probably behave similarly.<b=
r>
<br>
I&#39;m hoping that rsync will spawn many ssh. Need to look at max sessions=
 <br>
on both ends of the connection.<br>
<br>
Since encountering the described problem, the person at the other<br>
end is away for the week so have not been able to test thoroughly.<br>
What I have been able to test shows that there is spiky latency<br>
in the connection, as well as slow speed, single-threaded.<br>
<br>
&gt;Another thing, scp transfers from my test Rpi2 are much slower than the=
 network<br>
&gt;can handle due to the CPU use, which hits 100% on one cpu whilst it&#39=
;s running.<br>
&gt;So, check that CPU isn&#39;t the bottleneck too.<br>
<br>
Yup. That won&#39;t be happening here. Dual xenon with 56 cores at remote<b=
r>
end and same (but with 32 cores) at this end<br>
<br>
&gt;As for the speed, I just tested sftp to transfer a file of random data,=
 2 GB in<br>
&gt;size from one FreeBSD box in London to another in France:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;The final result was:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 100% 2000MB=C2=A0 43.5MB/s=C2=A0 =C2=A000:46=C2=A0 (Note, that&#39;s M=
egaBYTES/s)<br>
<br>
I ran a similar test.<br>
Sending system is on synchronous gigabit fibre on US east coast,<br>
receiving system is near London on 110/21 fibre (so, gigabit in the sending=
<br>
direction):<br>
<br>
100% 2000MB=C2=A0 =C2=A07.2MB/s=C2=A0 =C2=A004:36<br>
<br>
using rsync -azP : 2,097,152,000 100%=C2=A0 =C2=A0 6.81MB/s=C2=A0 =C2=A0 0:=
04:53 (xfr#1, to-chk=3D0/1)<br>
<br>
the speed fluctulates a lot. Both systems are quiet in a network and OS sen=
se<br>
for the duration of the test.<br>
<br>
&gt;The London box is pretty old, and is a virtual host scheduled to be dec=
omissioned.<br>
&gt;It is running an old openssl 1.X, openssh 8.8 and is a single core 2.4G=
hz amd64 box.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;The France box is a 4 core bare metal 3.1Ghz and64 running openssh 9.2 =
and openssl 1.1.1<br>
<br>
both ends here are running very recent -current, so ssl/ssh is <br>
OpenSSH_9.3p1, OpenSSL 3.0.9 30 May 2023<br>
<br>
&gt;Anything more I can tell you that may help?<br>
<br>
Thanks very much for your input. I&#39;m certain it&#39;s not a freebsd pro=
blem.<br>
<br>
-- <br>
<br>
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