Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2024 09:01:11 -0400 From: Greg Wallace <greg@freebsdfoundation.org> To: Tomek CEDRO <tomek@cedro.info> Cc: Alice Sowerby <alice@freebsdfoundation.org>, freebsd-enterprisewg@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Request for updates: EWG call next week Message-ID: <CAP=s-_hP5ZtOhehXkuUiWW28vFTTrfsoYNq5i761rB9hHoYRVQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAFYkXj=FUGyTai3-N=cXw-Og5i5czkZsaCa0OZ6QnUb-L9D_UQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAE=KKV_iAmr1VALTgswVnxP_PXza44Oo6zk0rNWdfuGde4OSZQ@mail.gmail.com> <CAFYkXj=FUGyTai3-N=cXw-Og5i5czkZsaCa0OZ6QnUb-L9D_UQ@mail.gmail.com>
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--0000000000006621ef0621c37898 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Tomek! Let's discuss the question of broadening the NVIDIA AI topic to include other chip makers on the next call. When we started the WG, the pain point that was raised and that participants agreed on was NVIDIA support on FreeBSD. This I think is due to two factors. First is NVIDIA's lead in AI chips and associated software and second because CUDA is proprietary. The latter point making it important that the Foundation play some role. For Intel and AMD, it's great to see them emerging with strong alternatives. In addition, my understanding is that their respective CUDA alternatives are primarily open source. This makes it possible for the community to work on FreeBSD support. At least that's my understanding. All the above said, I will add for next week's agenda Regarding Wifi, this is a known area that needs improvement but that, I submit, is outside the scope of the enterprise WG. Greg On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 9:04=E2=80=AFAM Tomek CEDRO <tomek@cedro.info> wrote= : > Hey there :-) > > I can see only NVIDIA GPU support but no AMD GPU support.. and so no > INTEL GPU support. I guess the problem is with general GPU support > that relates to DRM right? Can we add this broad scope please? > > Also recently I was traveling more and used WiFi more than Ethernet > connections. I must admit current WiFi support looks really bad (old > standard support, speed, reliability, no 5GHz band). We should also > add WiFi to the list..? Not to mention setups like modern WiFi AP + > wireguard access network on FreeBSD my friend recently was thinking > about. > > Have a good day :-) > Tomek > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 2:02=E2=80=AFPM Alice Sowerby > <alice@freebsdfoundation.org> wrote: > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > Heads up that the next EWG call is next Wednesday, September 18 at 5pm > UK. I will be on PTO and Greg Wallace (cc'd) will be hosting. > > > > Please let me know in advance any updates you may have, and copy Greg i= n. > > > > Or, please update the spreadsheet directly: > > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pM3boLIcKj26lq7XbwGMBXW0-F84We3r_= Xc3zovHjaQ/edit?usp=3Dsharing > > > > Hope you have a great call! > > > > Alice. > > -- > > Alice Sowerby > > Part-time Program Manager, Partnerships & Research > > M +44 7787 953393 > > > > -- > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info > --=20 Greg Wallace Director of Partnerships & Research M +1 919-247-3165 Schedule a meeting <https://calendly.com/greg-freebsdfound/30min>; Get your FreeBSD Gear <https://freebsd-foundation.myshopify.com/>; --0000000000006621ef0621c37898 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Tomek!<div><br></div><div>Let's discuss the questio= n=C2=A0of broadening the NVIDIA AI topic to include other chip makers on th= e next call.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>When we started the WG, the pai= n point that was raised and that participants agreed on was NVIDIA support = on FreeBSD. This I think is due to two factors. First is NVIDIA's lead = in AI chips and associated software and second because CUDA is proprietary.= The latter point making it important that the Foundation=C2=A0play some ro= le.</div><div><br></div><div>For Intel and AMD, it's great to see them = emerging with strong alternatives. In addition, my understanding is that th= eir respective CUDA alternatives are primarily open source. This makes it p= ossible for the community to work on FreeBSD support. At least that's m= y understanding.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>All the above said, I will = add for next week's agenda</div><div><br></div><div>Regarding Wifi, thi= s is a known area that needs improvement but that, I submit, is outside the= scope of the enterprise WG.</div><div><br></div><div>Greg</div><div><br></= div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cl= ass=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 9:04=E2=80=AFAM Tomek CEDRO <<= a href=3D"mailto:tomek@cedro.info">tomek@cedro.info</a>> wrote:<br></div= ><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border= -left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hey there :-)<br> <br> I can see only NVIDIA GPU support but no AMD GPU support.. and so no<br> INTEL GPU support. I guess the problem is with general GPU support<br> that relates to DRM right? Can we add this broad scope please?<br> <br> Also recently I was traveling more and used WiFi more than Ethernet<br> connections. I must admit current WiFi support looks really bad (old<br> standard support, speed, reliability, no 5GHz band). We should also<br> add WiFi to the list..? Not to mention setups like modern WiFi AP +<br> wireguard access network on FreeBSD my friend recently was thinking<br> about.<br> <br> Have a good day :-)<br> Tomek<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 2:02=E2=80=AFPM Alice Sowerby<br> <<a href=3D"mailto:alice@freebsdfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">alice@= freebsdfoundation.org</a>> wrote:<br> ><br> > Hello everyone,<br> ><br> > Heads up that the next EWG call is next Wednesday, September 18 at 5pm= UK. I will be on PTO and Greg Wallace (cc'd) will be hosting.<br> ><br> > Please let me know in advance any updates you may have, and copy Greg = in.<br> ><br> > Or, please update the spreadsheet directly:<br> > <a href=3D"https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pM3boLIcKj26lq7XbwG= MBXW0-F84We3r_Xc3zovHjaQ/edit?usp=3Dsharing" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_= blank">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pM3boLIcKj26lq7XbwGMBXW0-F84= We3r_Xc3zovHjaQ/edit?usp=3Dsharing</a><br> ><br> > Hope you have a great call!<br> ><br> > Alice.<br> > --<br> > Alice Sowerby<br> > Part-time Program Manager, Partnerships & Research<br> > M +44 7787 953393<br> <br> <br> <br> -- <br> CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, <a href=3D"http://www.tomek.cedro.info" rel=3D"noreferrer"= target=3D"_blank">http://www.tomek.cedro.info</a><br>; </blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div><span class=3D"gmail_si= gnature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature"><d= iv dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"tahoma, sans-serif">Greg Wallace</font><div><f= ont face=3D"tahoma, sans-serif">Director of Partnerships & Research</fo= nt></div><div><div><font face=3D"tahoma, sans-serif"><img width=3D"96" heig= ht=3D"51" src=3D"https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4wjP1JywV5= 1T1uncasRi5dh2tUFJeZix_vPxSVpOhkm2zu1JmXD4jfm2U5IKBxTuPyUCfKI10o"></font></= div></div><div><font face=3D"tahoma, sans-serif">M +1 919-247-3165<br></fon= t></div><div><a href=3D"https://calendly.com/greg-freebsdfound/30min" targe= t=3D"_blank"><font face=3D"tahoma, sans-serif">Schedule a meeting</font></a= ></div><div><a href=3D"https://freebsd-foundation.myshopify.com/" target=3D= "_blank">Get your FreeBSD Gear</a></div></div></div> --0000000000006621ef0621c37898--
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