Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 21:46:27 -0400 From: John Von Essen <john@essenz.com> To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and MacOS Message-ID: <CC369754-CC92-11D8-B156-0003933DDCFA@essenz.com> In-Reply-To: <40E4BA4E.4060007@trio.plala.or.jp> References: <40E1CAAD.3000303@minimum.se> <40E1CF00.2090601@netli.com> <1088557263.3528.102.camel@host-83-146-2-180.bulldogdsl.com> <72A1AE29-CA60-11D8-988E-000A95C969C6@zumbrunn.com> <9B616D82-CB28-11D8-9145-000D9335C6A0@yahoo.com.au> <40E40385.9030401@trio.plala.or.jp> <F694F50C-CB94-11D8-AFC7-00306544D642@mac.com> <40E4BA4E.4060007@trio.plala.or.jp>
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I think when I originally started this thread it had to do with confusion concerning what constitutes current OS X. I know rhapsody started with heavy OPENSTEP 4.2 influence, but it seems that some major changes have occurred since rhapsody/10.0 and current 10.3. The OPENSTEP stuff gave them a good start, but once they got started things evolved and FreeBSD is now more of an influence - which is good! As for darwin. I remember when darwin was made available for free download, I put it on my g3 imac. It had no gui, just shell interface, and lacked alot of tools. If I remember correctly, you had to manually ifconfig your network devices. Since OPENSTEP kernel had an x86 port, its not to far off to conclude that darwin could be run on x86 - but I think all the x86 talk was just hypothetical - would only happen in real life if some hardcore coders had alot of spare time on their hands... -john On Jul 1, 2004, at 9:28 PM, Eitarou Kamo wrote: > HI Justin, > > Justin Walker wrote: > >> >> On Jul 1, 2004, at 5:28, Eitarou Kamo wrote: >> >>> >> >> Darwin, as the underpinnings for Mac OS X, is entirely open source, >> in the sense that you can build a running Darwin system from the >> open-source code available from Apple. You can't completely replace >> corresponding components in Mac OS X with code from the Darwin code >> base and have a working system (some frameworks/libraries are only >> partially open source). >> >> Some components of the kernel are not open-source, but they are not >> needed to build a Darwin system, or to build a kernel that can >> replace the one you have on a running Mac OS X system. These >> components are loadable kernel modules, and as such, will load into a >> rebuilt kernel of the same version level. >> >> Hope that isn't too confusing. >> > It may be OK, I guess. I didn't know Darwin well so far. and > I'm not going to port or derive Darwin to other systems. But > I'm interested in a bit. > > Eitarou > > -- > > *********************** > Eitarou Kamo > > Tel. +81 75 7035997 > Fax +81 75 7035997 > VoIP 050 10585997(domestic only) > e-mail e-kamo@trio.plala.or.jp > > For business: > Feel free to mail me(above), please. > > Donation http://www.PayPal.Com > > GPG FingerPrint: > 032D FDF9 D27B 23F7 9A81 BF4C 626C FBAA BC3A 9895 > *********************************************************************** > * > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >
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