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Date:      Sat, 19 Apr 2008 21:38:27 +1000
From:      Aristedes Maniatis <ari@ish.com.au>
To:        John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        bzeeb+freebsd+lor@zabbadoz.net, jeff@freebsd.org, Jurgen Weber <jurgen@ish.com.au>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, davidxu@freebsd.org
Subject:   LOR on sleepqueue chain locks, Was: LOR sleepq/scrlock
Message-ID:  <D3B47B32-BB24-4DE9-A609-D2BB66AD5A95@ish.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <200804181314.24974.jhb@freebsd.org>
References:  <77E81AD6-FBCC-4D30-A5CB-A9B918D4793F@ish.com.au> <200804101651.24852.jhb@freebsd.org> <B545E3BC-B592-4847-AAF9-4230892FC049@ish.com.au> <200804181314.24974.jhb@freebsd.org>

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On 19/04/2008, at 3:14 AM, John Baldwin wrote:
> On Thursday 10 April 2008 06:33:40 pm Aristedes Maniatis wrote:
>>
>>>> http://www.ish.com.au/s/LOR/1.jpg
>>>> http://www.ish.com.au/s/LOR/2.jpg
>>>> http://www.ish.com.au/s/LOR/3.jpg (this overlaps with [2])
>>>
>>> These are all garbage in kuickshow. :(
>>
>> They work fine for me in Firefox. But don't know what sort of jpegs
>> the Sony camera saves. Anyhow I've also now resaved them as png  
>> (about
>> twice the size). Please let me know if that worked.
>>
>> http://www.ish.com.au/s/LOR/1.png , etc
>
> kuickshow had issues still, but FF worked ok.  The specific LOR at  
> the end is
> real, but a minor one.  Basically, the console driver locks
> (e.g. "sio", "scrlock") are higher in the order than the various  
> thread
> locks, so any printf while holding a thread lock will trigger a  
> LOR.  The
> real problem at the bottom of the screen though is a real issue.   
> It's a LOR
> of two different sleepqueue chain locks.  The problem is that when
> setrunnable() encounters a swapped out thread it tries to wakeup  
> proc0, but
> if proc0 is asleep (which is typical) then its thread lock is a  
> sleep queue
> chain lock, so waking up a swapped out thread from wakeup() will  
> usually
> trigger this LOR.
>
> I think the best fix is to not have setrunnable() kick proc0 directly.
> Perhaps setrunnable() should return an int and return true if proc0  
> needs to
> be awakened and false otherwise.  Then the the sleepq code (b/c only  
> sleeping
> threads can be swapped out anyway) can return that value from
> sleepq_resume_thread() and can call kick_proc0() directly once it  
> has dropped
> all of its own locks.
>
> -- 
> John Baldwin

The way you describe it, it almost sounds like this LOR should be  
happening for everyone, all the time. To try and eliminate the factors  
which trigger it for us, we tried the following: removed PAE from  
kernel, disabled PF. Neither of these things made any difference and  
the error is fairly quickly reproducible (within a couple of hours  
running various things to load the machine). The one thing we did not  
test yet is removing ZFS from the picture. Note also that this box ran  
for years and years on FreeBSD 4.x without a hiccup (non PAE, ipfw  
instead of pf and no ZFS of course).

Since I've ordered a replacement machine to go into production now, I  
am happy to make this one available for whatever testing would benefit  
the FreeBSD community to track down the problem.

If useful, we could upgrade this machine to 7 STABLE branch and use  
the new tools Robert Watson recently wrote to dump better crash logs.  
Let me know, but I don't know a lot about them yet apart from what I  
read on this list.

Regards
Ari Maniatis



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