Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 09:32:03 -0400 From: Dan Langille <dan@langille.org> To: Kurt Jaeger <pi@FreeBSD.org> Cc: "mandree@freebsd.org" <mandree@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Ports <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: mail/mailman v3? Message-ID: <E0A0D488-3FEC-48D8-9425-08432321719C@langille.org> In-Reply-To: <20200424130424.GJ39563@home.opsec.eu> References: <FD5DA99A-4B99-4730-BD8E-7079416A56BB@langille.org> <20200424130424.GJ39563@home.opsec.eu>
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> On Apr 24, 2020, at 9:04 AM, Kurt Jaeger <pi@FreeBSD.org> wrote: >=20 > Hi! >=20 >> With mail/mailman being Python 2.7 (which is end-of-life), and = mailman 3 being Python 3 compatible: >>=20 >> Do you know of any plans to port Mailman 3? >=20 > There's already a PR about that: >=20 > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D225543 Now 2 years old I see. Good start.=20 > The patch itself is fine, but we need run-tests. >=20 > This means: If you want to help, > - use that patch, > - build mailman3, > - and install it somewhere and > - test all the use-cases that you can think of > - then write some docs on how to move an existing mailman2 site > to mailman3 I'm guessing that's over and above what I found at: https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/migration.html > - and give ideas how to handle list archives > *especially* keeping the URLs identical (!) I think the existing archives are static HTML. I have some archives = dating back to 1999: https://www.unixathome.org/adsl/ There might be some server-side rewrites or aliases to ensure that this URL always works, before and after mailman3: https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2020-April/118352.html = <https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2020-April/118352.html>= Let's compare 2 and 3 lists: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/ = <https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/>; https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/ = <https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/>; They are distinct (ignoring the hostname differences) so keeping the old alongside the new should be safe.=20 > And, speaking as one of the postmaster@ team: > As lists.freebsd.org uses mailman2, we need this! >=20 > postmaster@ has not yet decided if we really want to move to mailman3, > so we are open to other options. The mail archive is the biggest = hurdle 8-( Yes, we can't lose those. I have my own archives to support. =E2=80=94=20 Dan Langille http://langille.org/
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