Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 11:30:40 +0200 From: Yonatan Bokovza <Yonatan@xpert.com> To: 'Greg Lehey' <grog@FreeBSD.org>, Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> Cc: Stephen McKay <mckay@thehub.com.au>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Course of law (was: Islam (was: Religions (was Re: helping vi ctims of terror))) Message-ID: <EB513E68D3F5D41191CA000255588101B43523@mailserv.xpert.com>
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> -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Lehey [mailto:grog@FreeBSD.org] > Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 04:14 > To: Brett Glass > Cc: Stephen McKay; chat@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Course of law (was: Islam (was: Religions (was > Re: helping victims of terror))) > > On Tuesday, 23 October 2001 at 20:08:38 -0600, Brett Glass wrote: > > At 06:04 PM 10/23/2001, Greg Lehey wrote: > > > >> Are there laws in place which define when this right applies, and > >> what "deadly force" means? > > > > In every democracy of which I am aware. > > In the democracies of which I'm aware, there is a due course of > justice. It doesn't involve invading places and shooting first. In the democracies *I'm* aware of there's something called "war". A good example of this will be when a one country shoots at other country's civilians. > >> Does "attempting to apprehend criminals" include driving tanks into > >> towns and firing at random? > > > > No. And the Israelis are not doing that. > > It looks very much like it to me. What am I missing? You're missing the long debates on every action, the lists of hundreds of known terrorists Israel asked the Palestinian Authority to "apprehend", the real number of those that actually were arrested and released a few days later. You're also missing the fact that the Israelis shoot as a last measure, after peace talks yielded zilch, and that the tanks are there because the Palestinians are shooting, nightly, at civilian neighbourhood called "Giloh". No, it's not a "settlement". It's a neighborhood in Jerusalem, which is the capital city of Israel. How would you react if other country was *nightly* shooting at civilians in D.C. ? Judging by the force used in Afghanistan, tanks would be the light weapons in use... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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