Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 00:38:09 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper <yanegomi@gmail.com> To: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> Cc: jpaetzel@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org, Garrett Cooper <gcooper@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: txt-sysinstall scrapped Message-ID: <F0AE2CC1-2837-4A38-88BC-C57289F9C041@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4CD4FA7E.4030602@bsdimp.com> References: <201011052316.27839.jpaetzel@freebsd.org> <AANLkTi=62rRhZsN4wUi6p_yokSxG0tkjUHK7gosLtTRZ@mail.gmail.com> <20101105.230617.74669306.imp@bsdimp.com> <AANLkTi=G2UEj4P=h=B7Tr58vg7RC9McMZq-q73ArDWOZ@mail.gmail.com> <4CD4FA7E.4030602@bsdimp.com>
next in thread | previous in thread | raw e-mail | index | archive | help
On Nov 5, 2010, at 11:49 PM, Warner Losh wrote: > On 11/06/2010 00:04, Garrett Cooper wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 10:06 PM, Warner Losh<imp@bsdimp.com> wrote: >>>> Just to add to that (because I do find it a novel idea), 1) how >>>> are you going to properly prevent man in the middle attacks (SSL, = TLS, >>>> etc?), and 2) what webserver would you use? >>> https or ssh. >>>=20 >>> We're also toying with the idea of having a partition that you could >>> 'dd' your certs and keys to (so any system can customize the image >>> with keys to make sure you were talking to who you think you are). >>> We'd just reserve 1MB of space on partition s3. We'd then check to >>> see if there was a tar ball. If so, we'd extract it and do the >>> intelligent thing with the keys we find there. >> Wouldn't it be better just to go with a read-write media solution >> (USB) like Matt Dillon was suggesting at today then? > That's exactly what I'm doing, i think. I didn't hear matt's = suggestion at all, so I have no idea what you are talking about. Summary: DVD load times are ridiculous; just go straight for a fat (4GB = uncompressed, 1.7GB compressed) USB image. I think it's a bit big, but = with all of the binary packages in ports, it might be around that size. > my idea was that you could do this with an image you'd DD to a usb = stick. For the cdrom, you'd need to do more complicated things, which I = hadn't though about earlier... While I thought of this for vm creation = mostly, I can see cdrom booting might be desirable too... Yeah... I boot from CD by default and so do a number of other users of = course (despite the fact that it's an archaic 1980s technology :)...). >> Then again, >> determining the root device to date is still a bit kludgy isn't it? >>=20 > Not anymore. ufs labels and glabel make it almost bulletproof. Good point -- forgot about that. Which reminds me that I need to test = some geom things related to this. >>>> I bring up the former item because I wouldn't want my data = going >>>> unencrypted across any wire, and what BSD compatible web servers = did >>>> you guys have in store and who would maintain the server, and what >>>> kinds of vulnerabilities would you be introducing by adding a = service >>>> which would be enabled by default at runtime? >>> The web server would just be there at installation time. You'd run = it >>> out of the ram disk and it would evaporate when the system reboots >>> after it being installed. >> Sure. >>=20 >>> Also, I'm not sure we even need to have to have a set of prompts. = If >>> we do the web page right, we likely can just go directly to lynx... >> Well... I like the curl idea a lot more for this approach (esp = because >> it supports more protocols than just http and ftp, whereas lynx is >> constrained to ftp and http for the most part), but having both >> solutions is more heavyweight for the task than it probably should = be. > I must be explaining badly. lynx isn't for downloading anything from = the web, but connecting to the web-server that's running on your box to = configure the box before the install happens. You don't need https for = that, and while I suppose we could offer the uber-geek ftp install via = command line extensions to ftpd, I hadn't planned on that :) Well... what do you mean by "before the install happens"? What kind of = information would one specify in that state to get the machine from an = effectively halted state to a singing and dancing I'm installing FreeBSD = state? > I have no idea what the curl idea is. Maybe you could explain to me = what you are suggesting here. Summary: push and pull data to and from the backend via curl. There = wasn't much else to it other than that... Thanks, -Garrett=
Want to link to this message? Use this URL: <https://mail-archive.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?F0AE2CC1-2837-4A38-88BC-C57289F9C041>