Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 08:37:31 -0600 From: Devin Teske <dteske@freebsd.org> To: Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>, Lars Engels <lme@freebsd.org>, "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com> Subject: Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] BSD-Licensed Combinatorics library/utility Message-ID: <F436A4E2-5657-4B23-A574-2D66EA68A240@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <72753F50-8810-43C1-BDDD-E541278A146F@cschubert.com> References: <51AD9B50-9488-45CE-878F-EE97F6914E49@freebsd.org> <201912121119.xBCBJ2Jo017249@fire.js.berklix.net> <20191212130825.GJ5400@e.0x20.net> <CANCZdfpmyk23w0RmYiVOHx3Qzga_H9G=uXypPgGkktwQqX_%2B%2Bg@mail.gmail.com> <72753F50-8810-43C1-BDDD-E541278A146F@cschubert.com>
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Ports is like the =E2=80=9Cfriend zone=E2=80=9D that women put men when they= are uninterested in you as a mate. =E2=80=9CProve it is popular in ports first=E2=80=9D is a terminal fate, not= a gateway. Also, I already told you why it is not a good candidate for ports. Also, bloat does not describe this software. =E2=80=94=20 Devin Sent from my iPhone > On 12 Dec 2019, at 9:10 AM, Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> wrote:= >=20 >> On December 12, 2019 6:39:05 AM PST, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote: >>> On Thu, Dec 12, 2019, 6:08 AM Lars Engels <lme@freebsd.org> wrote: >>>=20 >>>> On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 12:19:01PM +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote: >>>> Devin Teske wrote: >>>>> I???d like to announce a new utility/library for FreeBSD base >>> available for review. >>>>>=20 >>>>> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D16132 >> <https://reviews.freebsd.org/D16132 >>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Preview HTML-formatted manuals: >>>>> https://fraubsd.org/doc/cmb.1.html >> <https://fraubsd.org/doc/cmb.1.html >>>>=20 >>>>> https://fraubsd.org/doc/cmb.3.html >> <https://fraubsd.org/doc/cmb.3.html >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> ... etc. >>>>=20 >>>> It cost pain & disputes forcing other code from src/ to ports/ , >>>> despite which src/ has bloated. No more bloat please. >>>=20 >>> It's no bloat: >>>=20 >>> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 23K Dec 12 14:04 /usr/bin/cmp >>> -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 29K Dec 12 14:04 >>> /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/cmp.debug >>> -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1.9K Dec 12 14:04 >> /usr/share/man/man1/cmp.1.gz >>> -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 151B Dec 12 14:04 >>> /usr/tests/usr.bin/cmp/Kyuafile >>> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2.3K Dec 12 14:04 >>> /usr/tests/usr.bin/cmp/cmp_test >>> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2.6K Dec 12 14:04 >>> /usr/tests/usr.bin/cmp/cmp_test2 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Given that on embedded systems debug, kyua and man pages are usually >> not >>> installed, cmp(1) adds just 23 kB to the image. >>>=20 >>=20 >> Cmb and cmp are different things. Cmb is not yet in the system. >>=20 >> But I'm with Julian on this one: this hasn't been socialized, seems >> auxiliary to our needs and could better be served as a port. There >> might be >> good arguments to include it, but I've not yet seen them clearly >> articulated yet. >>=20 >> Warner >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list >>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 > Agreed. A good example is mergemaster(8) which started out in ports and w= as subsequently moved to base. >=20 > Also, to run our testsuite in /usr/tests one must install devel/kyua from p= orts. >=20 > I see nothing wrong with putting it in ports for now. It should be there t= o start with. >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Pardon the typos and autocorrect, small keyboard in use.=20 > Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> > FreeBSD UNIX: <cy@FreeBSD.org> Web: https://www.FreeBSD.org >=20 > The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few. >=20 > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
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