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Date:      Mon, 16 Dec 2019 08:37:31 -0600
From:      Devin Teske <dteske@freebsd.org>
To:        Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>, Lars Engels <lme@freebsd.org>, "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com>
Subject:   Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] BSD-Licensed Combinatorics library/utility
Message-ID:  <F436A4E2-5657-4B23-A574-2D66EA68A240@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <72753F50-8810-43C1-BDDD-E541278A146F@cschubert.com>
References:  <51AD9B50-9488-45CE-878F-EE97F6914E49@freebsd.org> <201912121119.xBCBJ2Jo017249@fire.js.berklix.net> <20191212130825.GJ5400@e.0x20.net> <CANCZdfpmyk23w0RmYiVOHx3Qzga_H9G=uXypPgGkktwQqX_%2B%2Bg@mail.gmail.com> <72753F50-8810-43C1-BDDD-E541278A146F@cschubert.com>

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Ports is like the =E2=80=9Cfriend zone=E2=80=9D that women put men when they=
 are uninterested in you as a mate.

=E2=80=9CProve it is popular in ports first=E2=80=9D is a terminal fate, not=
 a gateway.

Also, I already told you why it is not a good candidate for ports.

Also, bloat does not describe this software.
=E2=80=94=20
Devin

Sent from my iPhone

> On 12 Dec 2019, at 9:10 AM, Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> wrote:=

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>> On December 12, 2019 6:39:05 AM PST, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Dec 12, 2019, 6:08 AM Lars Engels <lme@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>>=20
>>>> On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 12:19:01PM +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
>>>> Devin Teske wrote:
>>>>> I???d like to announce a new utility/library for FreeBSD base
>>> available for review.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D16132
>> <https://reviews.freebsd.org/D16132
>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Preview HTML-formatted manuals:
>>>>> https://fraubsd.org/doc/cmb.1.html
>> <https://fraubsd.org/doc/cmb.1.html
>>>>=20
>>>>> https://fraubsd.org/doc/cmb.3.html
>> <https://fraubsd.org/doc/cmb.3.html
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> ... etc.
>>>>=20
>>>> It cost pain & disputes forcing other code from src/ to ports/ ,
>>>> despite which src/ has bloated.  No more bloat please.
>>>=20
>>> It's no bloat:
>>>=20
>>> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    23K Dec 12 14:04 /usr/bin/cmp
>>> -r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    29K Dec 12 14:04
>>> /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/cmp.debug
>>> -r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   1.9K Dec 12 14:04
>> /usr/share/man/man1/cmp.1.gz
>>> -r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   151B Dec 12 14:04
>>> /usr/tests/usr.bin/cmp/Kyuafile
>>> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   2.3K Dec 12 14:04
>>> /usr/tests/usr.bin/cmp/cmp_test
>>> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   2.6K Dec 12 14:04
>>> /usr/tests/usr.bin/cmp/cmp_test2
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Given that on embedded systems debug, kyua and man pages are usually
>> not
>>> installed, cmp(1) adds just 23 kB to the image.
>>>=20
>>=20
>> Cmb and cmp are different things. Cmb is not yet in the system.
>>=20
>> But I'm with Julian on this one: this hasn't been socialized, seems
>> auxiliary to our needs and could better be served as a port. There
>> might be
>> good arguments to include it, but I've not yet seen them clearly
>> articulated yet.
>>=20
>> Warner
>>=20
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>>>=20
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>=20
> Agreed.  A good example is mergemaster(8) which started out in ports and w=
as subsequently moved to base.
>=20
> Also, to run our testsuite in /usr/tests one must install devel/kyua from p=
orts.
>=20
> I see nothing wrong with putting it in ports for now. It should be there t=
o start with.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> Pardon the typos and autocorrect, small keyboard in use.=20
> Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
> FreeBSD UNIX: <cy@FreeBSD.org> Web: https://www.FreeBSD.org
>=20
> The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.
>=20
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.




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