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Date:      Sun, 10 Apr 2022 12:37:33 +0200
From:      Axel Rau <Axel.Rau@chaos1.de>
To:        Tomek CEDRO <tomek@cedro.info>
Cc:        Hans Petter Selasky <hps@selasky.org>, hardware@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: timeouts on USB ISP programmer
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> Am 09.04.2022 um 01:39 schrieb Tomek CEDRO <tomek@cedro.info>:
>=20
>=20
> Long story short:
> * Put both dip-switches to OFF if you use external board (no VCC
> connection required). They may stay ON if you program "bare" AVR (you
> need to connect VCC, SW1=3DON, SW2 OFF=3D3.3V ON=3D5V).
My switches are always on; my MCU is in the ZIFF socket. (-:
> * Try `avrdude -c stk500v2 -p 85 -vvv -t` and see of that connects to
> Programmer.
That=E2=80=99s what I did.

> * If programmer is connected but AVR communication problems you may
> slow down the STK500v2 bit clock with `-B` parameter or ISP clock with
> `-i` according to [4] (i.e. `-B 250` will result in 4kHz bit clock).
>=20
> Good luck and let us know if that works :-)


root@home2l:/ #	avrdude -c stk500v2 -p t85 -P /dev/cuau1 -t -vvv -B 250 =
-i 90
. . .
avrdude: Version 6.4
         Copyright (c) Brian Dean, http://www.bdmicro.com/
         Copyright (c) Joerg Wunsch

         System wide configuration file is "/usr/local/etc/avrdude.conf"
         User configuration file is "/root/.avrduderc"
         User configuration file does not exist or is not a regular =
file, skipping

         Using Port                    : /dev/cuau1
         Using Programmer              : stk500v2
         Setting bit clk period        : 250.0
         Setting isp clock delay        :  90
avrdude: ser_recv(): programmer is not responding
avrdude: stk500v2_ReceiveMessage(): timeout
avrdude: ser_recv(): programmer is not responding
avrdude: stk500v2_ReceiveMessage(): timeout
avrdude: ser_recv(): programmer is not responding
avrdude: stk500v2_ReceiveMessage(): timeout

I think, the DIAMEX is defective, I try to get another one.
Perhaps the drivers are gone.

How can I verify this?
=2D--
PGP-Key: CDE74120  =E2=98=80  computing @ chaos claudius


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<div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">=
Am 09.04.2022 um 01:39 schrieb Tomek CEDRO &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tomek@ce=
dro.info" class=3D"">tomek@cedro.info</a>&gt;:</div><br class=3D"Apple-in=
terchange-newline"><div class=3D""><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, =
0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoratio=
n: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-famil=
y: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps:=
 normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing=
: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: =
none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">Long story short:</span><br=
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font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weig=
ht: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-tex=
t-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"ca=
ret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transfo=
rm: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-wid=
th: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;"=
 class=3D"">* Put both dip-switches to OFF if you use external board (no =
VCC</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regu=
lar; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-inde=
nt: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size=
: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-tex=
t-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline =
!important;" class=3D"">connection required). They may stay ON if you =
program "bare" AVR (you</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoratio=
n: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-famil=
y: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps:=
 normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing=
: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: =
none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">need to connect VCC, =
SW1=3DON, SW2 OFF=3D3.3V ON=3D5V).</span><br style=3D"caret-color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; font-style: =
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; =
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;" class=3D""></div></blockquote>My switches are =
always on; my MCU is in the ZIFF socket. (-:<br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; font-style: =
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; =
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" =
class=3D"">* Try `avrdude -c stk500v2 -p 85 -vvv -t` and see of that =
connects to</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing=
: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""=
><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weig=
ht: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-tex=
t-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline =
!important;" class=3D"">Programmer.</span><br style=3D"caret-color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; font-style: =
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; =
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;" class=3D""></div></blockquote>That=E2=80=99s =
what I did.<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoratio=
n: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">* If =
programmer is connected but AVR communication problems you may</span><br =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size=
: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-tex=
t-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"ca=
ret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transfo=
rm: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-wid=
th: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;"=
 class=3D"">slow down the STK500v2 bit clock with `-B` parameter or ISP =
clock with</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing=
: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""=
><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weig=
ht: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-tex=
t-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline =
!important;" class=3D"">`-i` according to [4] (i.e. `-B 250` will result =
in 4kHz bit clock).</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoratio=
n: none;" class=3D""><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:=
 Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing=
: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""=
><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weig=
ht: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-tex=
t-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline =
!important;" class=3D"">Good luck and let us know if that works :-)</span=
><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weig=
ht: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-tex=
t-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""></div></blockquot=
e></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; =
font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: =
Monaco; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D""><span style=3D"=
font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=3D"">root@home2l:/ =
#<span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space: pre;">	</span>avrdu=
de -c stk500v2 -p t85 -P /dev/cuau1 -t -vvv -B 250 -i 90</span></div><div=
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: normal; font-family: Monaco; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" =
class=3D"">. . .</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: =
normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; =
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-var=
iant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=3D"">avrdude: Version =
6.4</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; =
font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; background-col=
or: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures=
: no-common-ligatures" class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
Copyright (c) Brian Dean, <a href=3D"http://www.bdmicro.com/" class=3D"">=
http://www.bdmicro.com/</a></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; =
font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: =
Monaco; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D""><span style=3D"=
font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Copyright (c) Joerg Wunsch</span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height:=
 normal; font-family: Monaco; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); =
min-height: 15px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: =
no-common-ligatures" class=3D""></span><br class=3D""></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height:=
 normal; font-family: Monaco; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; System wide configuration =
file is "/usr/local/etc/avrdude.conf"</span></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; =
font-family: Monaco; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D""><s=
pan style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=3D"">&nbs=
p;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; User configuration file is "/root/.avrduder=
c"</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size=
: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; background-color: =
rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: =
no-common-ligatures" class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; User =
configuration file does not exist or is not a regular file, skipping</spa=
n></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: =
11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; background-color: =
rgb(255, 255, 255); min-height: 15px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-var=
iant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=3D""></span><br class=3D""></d=
iv><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; =
line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; background-color: rgb(255, =
255, 255);" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-l=
igatures" class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Using Port&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : =
/dev/cuau1</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; =
font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; background-col=
or: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures=
: no-common-ligatures" class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
Using Programmer&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : =
stk500v2</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; =
font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; background-col=
or: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures=
: no-common-ligatures" class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
Setting bit clk period&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : 250.0</span></div><di=
v style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-heigh=
t: normal; font-family: Monaco; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Setting isp clock delay&nbsp=
; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; :&nbsp; 90</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; =
font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: =
Monaco; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D""><span style=3D"=
font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=3D"">avrdude: =
ser_recv(): programmer is not responding</span></div><div style=3D"margin=
: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; =
font-family: Monaco; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D""><s=
pan style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=3D"">avrd=
ude: stk500v2_ReceiveMessage(): timeout</span></div><div style=3D"margin:=
 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; =
font-family: Monaco; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D""><s=
pan style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=3D"">avrd=
ude: ser_recv(): programmer is not responding</span></div><div style=3D"m=
argin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; =
font-family: Monaco; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D""><s=
pan style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=3D"">avrd=
ude: stk500v2_ReceiveMessage(): timeout</span></div><div style=3D"margin:=
 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; =
font-family: Monaco; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D""><s=
pan style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=3D"">avrd=
ude: ser_recv(): programmer is not responding</span></div><div style=3D"m=
argin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; =
font-family: Monaco; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D""><s=
pan style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=3D"">avrd=
ude: stk500v2_ReceiveMessage(): timeout</span></div><div class=3D""><span=
 style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></span></div><div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-variant-ligat=
ures: no-common-ligatures" class=3D"">I think, the DIAMEX is defective, =
I try to get another one.</span></div><div class=3D""><span style=3D"font=
-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=3D"">Perhaps the drivers =
are gone.</span></div><div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatur=
es: no-common-ligatures" class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></div><div =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" =
class=3D"">How can I verify this?</span></div><div class=3D"">
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