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Date:      Thu, 27 Jun 2002 13:29:44 -0400
From:      "David P. Caldwell" <inonit@inonit.com>
To:        "Greg Lewis" <glewis@eyesbeyond.com>
Cc:        <freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: A Call to Action for freebsd-java...
Message-ID:  <JIEPJODHFFPGJDGMCPBEEEEHDLAA.inonit@inonit.com>
In-Reply-To: <20020628024759.A33080@misty.eyesbeyond.com>

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Greg (et al.):

This seems like as good a time to ask as any ...

I am very good at *Java*, but adequate at best at C/C++.

I "know" C/C++, but I don't know how to use debuggers, don't have any
experience making system calls, etc.  This kind of hard-core practical
knowledge I imagine is important to what you are working on.  (Stuff like
"run it under gdb and tell me what happens" seems to come up, but I have
only the vaguest idea what that means and wouldn't know how to interpret the
output.)

Presumably there are some people with my skill set laying around.  What
would be the best way for *us* to help out (if there are any right now)?

-- David.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG
[mailto:owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Greg Lewis
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 1:18 PM
To: Dylan Carlson
Cc: Greg Lewis; Bill Huey; freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: Re: A Call to Action for freebsd-java...


On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 12:30:53PM -0400, Dylan Carlson wrote:
> Fair enough.  My last email was not in any way a criticism.  You guys are
> doing above and beyond.   My hunch was that we didn't have many people on
the
> team to move things along (and I was right).   I'm sure most people on
this
> list who depend on the native JVM probably weren't sure of this either.
> Perhaps if  this issue (# of committers/size of team) can remain a hot
button,

I certainly didn't take it as a criticism :).  Just explaining the state
of play.  I may have been doing other committers an injustice, however the
only (FreeBSD) one I've heard from lately is Fuyuhiko-san, who had done
some tests with HotSpot and had a few small patches I believe.  More
active developers are always welcome though and would certainly make
things easier.

> word might circulate, and we can get some more warm bodies added to the
> effort.   Without at least 2 more people in the mix, my guess is we won't
be
> making progress.

Well, progress will be slow at least :).

> I will check around to see if anyone I know can help out.

As I said above, extra help is always appreciated :).  My only general
comments are that people should be prepared to dive in and do some work
before they are given repository access (but please try and coordinate
whatever you are doing, through me possibly(?)).

--
Greg Lewis                            Email : glewis@eyesbeyond.com
Eyes Beyond                           Web   : http://www.eyesbeyond.com
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