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Date:      Fri, 23 Jul 2004 14:42:15 -0400
From:      "JJB" <Barbish3@adelphia.net>
To:        "Bill Moran" <wmoran@potentialtech.com>, "Andy Baran" <abaran1@depaul.edu>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   RE: Packet filters
Message-ID:  <MIEPLLIBMLEEABPDBIEGMEJDGHAA.Barbish3@adelphia.net>
In-Reply-To: <20040723142122.4f7bfcd7.wmoran@potentialtech.com>

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Bill's post is correct only if the firewall defaults to pass all.

If your firewall defaults to deny all, then you need a pass all rule
for each interface you want to pass through the firewall.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Bill Moran
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:21 PM
To: Andy Baran
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Packet filters

"Andy Baran" <abaran1@depaul.edu> wrote:
> This question sounds like it has an easy answer at first but
please bear
> with me.  I am going to setup a network tap to monitor network
traffic
> flows.  The machine will be running FreeBSD 4.10 and has two NICs.
One
> interface will be used for management and the other will be to
collect
> the flows.  Obviously, security is a concern with a machine of
this
> nature so I need to setup a firewall on the management interface.
> However, I need to be absolutely sure that the firewall will not
be
> handling any of the packets on the second interface.  I am well
aware
> that IPFW and IPF can both be setup to monitor only a specific
> interface.  However, I'd like verification from someone familiar
with
> the code for either that the filter will not touch packets on the
> interface being used as a tap.  My apologies if I'm posing this
question
> to the wrong list.  If I am please let me know whom I should be
asking.
> Thanks in advance for any replies.

Since nobody else has answered ...

While I can't, personally, verify this "at the code level", I can
say from
experience, that ALL packets go through the firewall.  Whether or
not the
firewall "handles" and of the packets is simply a matter of your
ruleset.
Using IPFW, if the packets do not match any rules, they'll simply
pass in
one side of the packet filter, and out the other.  With the setup
you
describe, you can easily ensure that the packets never get altered
by
having a "via" clause in all your rules.

For example, if your sniffing interface is fxp0 and your management
interface
is fxp1, then rules similar to:
ipfw add drop tcp from any to any 25 via fxp1
Will _never_ match a packet that comes in or goes out through the
fxp0 card.

HTH.

--
Bill Moran
Potential Technologies
http://www.potentialtech.com
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