Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 03:07:28 -0600 (CST) From: Michael Chin-yuan Wu <mwu@ece.utexas.edu> To: nik@freebsd.org, vanilla@freebsd.org, foxfair@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, freebsd-core@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question about derivered version of FreeBSD (fwd) Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.93.1000320030533.21916A-100000@aries.ece.utexas.edu>
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 First of all, en.isoxxxx/books/handbook/l10n/chapter.sgml already mentions CFE and gives sufficient info. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nik Clayton" <nik@freebsd.org> To: <"CN=Lawrence Cheung_2/OU=HKG/OU=COMP/O=PHILIPS@APAC"@unregistered.philips.com> Cc: <freebsd-chat@freebsd.org> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 4:12 AM Subject: Re: Question about derivered version of FreeBSD | On Thu, Mar 16, 2000 at 05:47:01PM +0800, "CN=Lawrence Cheung_2/OU=HKG/OU=COMP/O=PHILIPS@APAC"@unregistered.philips.com wrote: | > A project called "CFE" (Chinese FreeBSD Extension) has been launched | > in taiwan user group. Another similar project come out from China Mainland. Both of these projects are simple shell scripts that only install various ports, KDE, Gnome, patch the kernel for 16-bit char support, setup .bashrc/.cshrc/.xsession/etc etc for the user. The security review is not done very well. They run on 3.4-stable. IMO, CFE and its simplified Chinese counterpart should not be part of the main distribution. We can provide a meta-/pseudo-port system, but that makes all of the -tw developers/committers' lives harder. I think that including CFE as part of the base system would get FreeBSD featured on bugtraq very often. This whole topic has been well discussed *extensively* on the -tw BSD USENET newsgroup and the -tw mailing lists. [It resulted in a flame war......] The general consensus was that it should at most be a part of the ports. | > AFAKI, I believe they will modify the "base system" code for Chinese | > support in C Lib level. In the homepage of "CFE" claims that it release | > with BSD license. The only "base system" that CFE ever modifies is the ufs/ffs/ part to include a hackish patch for 16-bit character. I do not recall seeing any efforts in the "modification of the C lib level". -TW simply does not have the resources to do so. Regarding the kernel patch for 16-bit, I will *attempt* to make a clean modification for FFS as my senior project. It should support unicode and arbitrary character sets. Hopefully, that would be enough to get us through the time until HPUFS comes into the base system. /me waits on Marius to speak up :P | > My question is: A modified version of FreeBSD can be called "FreeBSD" ? Can we simply just merge and absorb CFE? [We are the Borg.......] | That question is best addressed to core@freebsd.org. cc'd [I don't subscribe to -core though.] | However, I'm more interested in the modifications that you're planning on | making. Will you be feeding these back to the project as a whole, so that | (for example) a Spanish localisation could benefit from them? Much of the CFE is already in /usr/ports/chinese/*. -TW has an "outta-port" that provides beta-level ports for /usr/ports/chinese. However, I think that many i18n users would be happy to see that Keith Jang has successfully patched netscape's menu into Chinese. | We've got some docs about this, see http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/l10n.html Finally, an interesting fact of the day, Taiwan has a long standing Linux distribution/modification for Chinese users called CLE "Chinese Linux Extension". It predates CFE about a couple years. [CFE just got started around February, 2000.] Hence, there is concern that the name "CFE" is not too great, bla bla bla..... - -- ?????,?????? Strive for the very best; The outcome is not important. - -- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.2 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com>; iQA/AwUBONUPjo+pn6xwqVlNEQLnogCeIZxhZS2AlS2T+nd2ZxKs2/ZJhzMAn10g PycEjNO/mrgLZhardBnBF1Sf =CCUb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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