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Date:      Wed, 13 Sep 1995 15:04:28 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Jake Hamby <jehamby@lightside.com>
To:        Piero Serini <piero@strider.ibenet.it>
Cc:        "FreeBSD Hackers' List" <Hackers@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: 'talk' doesn't work! Did it ever?
Message-ID:  <Pine.AUX.3.91.950913145517.26091A-100000@covina.lightside.com>
In-Reply-To: <199509132124.XAA00499@strider.ibenet.it>

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On Wed, 13 Sep 1995, Piero Serini wrote:

> Hello.
> 
> Quoting from Jake Hamby (Wed Sep 13 22:52:26 1995):
> > Yeah, I was trying to talk to a SunOS box (and a Solaris box) as test 
> > cases.  The problem is that there is an ntalk daemon in /etc/inetd.conf 
> ...
> > Oh, and sorry for posting to hackers when I should've posted to 
> > questions...  But, since the FreeBSD->Sun compatibility problem hasn't 
> > been solved yet, perhaps this is a -hackers problem after all!
> 
> Sorry. I didn't mean to bite.
> 
> What I understood from your original message was that talk didn't
> work for you, *ever*. This has been asked many times in the past,
> and solved by proper network configuration. That's why I wrote it
> belonged to -questions.
> 
> If  the problem (as is) is a compatibility issue, yes, that's for
> hackers.
> 

No problem.  Actually it does appear to be a compatibility issue, and I'm 
not sure how FreeBSD should resolve it.  It appears that some of the most 
popular OS's (Solaris and SunOS in particular) only support the old talk 
daemon, which doesn't come with FreeBSD.  Running 'ytalk' on FreeBSD will 
connect with these OS's, but the catch is that the person you're paging 
has to use ytalk on THEIR end or THEY get a [Checking for invitation on 
caller's machine] message too!  It looks like Linux has an in.ntalkd 
which supports both protocols (at any rate, it's running on both ports 
517 and 518).  Is there any possibility to throw in in.talkd for 
backwards compatibility or patch in.ntalkd?  Or just leave the situation 
the way it is and warn people in the FAQ?

---Jake Hamby
  jehamby@lightside.com




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