Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:12:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeremy Shaffner <jer@jorsm.com> To: Radu-Cristian FOTESCU <rfotescu@idsrom.com> Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What to tell to Linux-centric people?! Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.95q.990723125337.4125A-100000@mercury.jorsm.com> In-Reply-To: <C1F3617BDC52D21185E40000214C247C15404E@id-bucharest.idsrom.com>
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Here's my take.... On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU wrote: > Now, I'm asking myself what to tell to Linux users that are asking me... > > 1. Why Linux has bash as default and FreeBSD csh? They want "command > history" with ARROWS, not with "!". Installing bash is a "make; make install" away. Less even if you install it as a package via sysinstall. You have the option of installing additional packages during installation. > 2. Why Linux has "ls-color" by default and FreeBSD doesn't? [please excuse > me if I'm wrong, but I haven't seen FreeBSD since 30 months ago, I can't > install it now, only Linux boxes are available here and for the moment I > don't own a PC!] Exact same reason as above. Like you said, Linux is just a kernel. It doesn't "come" with any apps. The various distributions just include a precompiled bash for you. > 3. What is the performance loss when running Linux apps under emulation in > FreeBSD [assuming no sources are available]. I can't say. > 4. Why _nobody_ is making a site like "http://www.linuxapps.com/" for the > *BSD system(s) in order to find easier apps? Because Linux users, app authors, and site hosters don't realize that Linux isn't the only Unix system out there. Not *really*. Most any program you can get at those sites compiles cleanly on FreeBSD, and if they don't, they can with minor modification (Which has probably already been done by someone and made into a Port.) And if they still can't, you run a binary under Linux emulation. The average Linux user is as un/misinformed about Unix as the average Windows user is about DOS. They think XFree86 is a Linux program. They think GNOME is a Linux program. They think SAMBA is a Linux program. They think xmms (formerlly x11amp) is a Linux program. Etc... Don't you realize what having source code means? Why do you think C was written to begin with? Can you say portability? Sure..someone could start http://www.freebsdapps.com, but what would that accomplish? You'd have the same software, and you would only be furthering the myth that "Linux software" is only for Linux, and "FreeBSD software" is only for FreeBSD. > Even images with the BSD daemon are impossible to find in sizes and formats > that would make them suitable for a wallpaper or something like that... You're right, I'll switch my servers over to Linux right away. -Jeremy P.s. There's Linux wallpaper? -=========================================================================- Jeremy Shaffner JORSM Internet, Regional Internet Services System Administrator 7 Area Codes in Chicagoland and NW Indiana jer@jorsm.com 100Mbps+ Connectivity, 56K-DS3, V.90, ISDN support@jorsm.com Quality Service, Affordable Prices http://www.jorsm.com Serving Gov, Biz, Indivds Since 1995 -=========================================================================- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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