Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:59:22 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Webster <andrew@guardian.fortress.org> To: Norman Hoy <normh@aone.com.au> Cc: lamaster@george.arc.nasa.gov, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sendmail - low on space Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.980127165831.21902I-100000@guardian.fortress.org> In-Reply-To: <199801272149.IAA14252@mail.mel.aone.net.au>
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On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, Norman Hoy wrote: Of course what would be REALLY nice would be a virtual disk driver like AIX's JFS where you can just keep adding disks when you run out of space on the logical volume! Oh well, we can at least dream... > Hi all, > I must admit I am lazy, and working out how > much room to leave for /var and /tmp for some future time > is just all too hard. re-partitioning hdd's is also too hard. > Where as in comparision to my time several hdd's are cheap. > > So I put /var and /tmp on their own physical hdd. So if I run out > of space all I do is get a bigger hdd and replace the one that is too > small > > regards > Norman > > ---------- > > From: Andrew Webster <andrew@guardian.fortress.org> > > To: lamaster@george.arc.nasa.gov > > Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Re: Sendmail - low on space > > Date: Wednesday, 28 January 1998 7:54 > > > > I'll jump in on this one as I've been bitten by the small /var more > than > > once! > > > > Watch out for /tmp too as the the local mail delivery agent called by > > sendmail (usually rmail) will write into /tmp. So if you are trying > > to deliver a large file it may still fail, and even if you have the > space > > in /var/mail. > > > > I create my systems without a physical /var parition and symlink /var > and > > /tmp into /usr/var and /usr/tmp respectively, this eliminates all > > problems, and you don't end up "wasting" lots of disk space for > temporary > > files. > > > > Can we make this the default of sysinstall? > > > > Alternatively you CAN create a biggish /var partion and link /tmp into > > /var/tmp. > > > > > > > > On Tue, 27 Jan 1998 lamaster@george.arc.nasa.gov wrote: > > > > > |>> At 07:18 PM 1/27/98 +0000, Damian Hamill wrote: > > > |>> >Mark Segal wrote: > > > |>> >> dennis wrote: > > > |>> >> will proably see the disk usage on /var is really high like > 90%+ this is > > > |>> >> probably do to some user with 14 megs of email.. :) > > > |>> > > > > |>> >Yes consider moving your mail queue (/var/spool/mqueue) to your > /usr > > > |>> >partition and symlinking to it. > > > |>> > > > |>> Unless disk IO and space is an issue, where a nth disk > > > |>> is mounted a /var, I symlink the entire /var to /usr/var > > > |>> when installing. No sense deciding how much to reserve for > > > |>> /var and /usr and more economical for single disk installs. > > > > > > > > > I know it is unfashionable right now to say this, and, > > > each to his own taste, but, /var was created for a reason. > > > The reason hasn't really gone away. I think it in > > > multiple-user environments it is good planning > > > to decide how much to reserve in advance for, e.g., > > > the user mail input queues. As well as user home > > > directories and other similar requirements. > > > > > > In other words, while the original user needs help and probably > > > doesn't feel like re-partitioning the disk at this point, > > > in general, I recommend planning the /var partition in advance > > > and partitioning the disk accordingly. The FreeBSD sysinstall > > > defaults are reasonable for smallish disks, but most people > > > have more memory and bigger disks today, and would benefit from > > > generally larger partitions (including swap). But, the basic > > > partitioning is very reasonable; the default sizes for /, swap, > > > and /var, should probably be larger for larger disks. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Hugh LaMaster > > > > > > Hugh LaMaster, M/S 258-5, ASCII Email: > hlamaster@mail.arc.nasa.gov > > > NASA Ames Research Center Or: lamaster@nas.nasa.gov > > > Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000 No Junkmail: USC 18 section 2701 > > > Phone: 415/604-1056 Disclaimer: Unofficial, personal > *opinion*. > > > > > > > > > > Andrew Webster andrew@pubnix.net > > Key fingerprint = CF E8 16 B8 A6 DB E3 C9 83 E7 96 24 25 58 15 6E > > PubNIX Montreal Connected to the world Branche au monde > > P.O. Box 147 Cote Saint Luc, Quebec H4V 2Y3 > > tel 514.990.5911 http://www.pubnix.net fax 514.990.9443 > > > Andrew Webster andrew@pubnix.net Key fingerprint = CF E8 16 B8 A6 DB E3 C9 83 E7 96 24 25 58 15 6E PubNIX Montreal Connected to the world Branche au monde P.O. Box 147 Cote Saint Luc, Quebec H4V 2Y3 tel 514.990.5911 http://www.pubnix.net fax 514.990.9443
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