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Date:      Fri, 21 Aug 1998 11:50:21 +0200 (CEST)
From:      Didier Derny <didier@omnix.net>
To:        hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Cc:        support@yard.de
Subject:   Re: Yard/FreeBSD problem (fwd)
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.980821114024.4540A-100000@omnix.net>

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Hi,

I still have many problems with Yard/FreeBSD.

I sent my programs / database to Yard last wednesday.
they did some testing on their version (FreeBSD 2.1.6)
It worked really fine except for a few slow down.

(for him 350 seconds on a pentium 133)

For me on 3.0-980594-SNAP and FreeBSD-2.2.5-STABLE
it's still unusable (I stopped the program after
25 minutes on a Pentium II 333).

We are writing some application that we are planning to 
bundle with the Yard SQL engine. 

I can't imagine that I would have to tell my clients that
to run our applications they have to install the FreeBSD 
source code and modify the kernel and rebuild it.

do you have any idea on how we could definitively solve this
problem for 2.2.X and 3.X versions of FreeBSD ?

--
Didier Derny
didier@omnix.net



---------- Forwarded message ----------

I ran your program on our system and it shows a similar behaviour as you 
describe. Below is the vmstat output, which indicates the hanging moments with
an idle time of > 50%. But these moments don't seem to be that awful.
In total your program took 350 seconds on a 133 MHz Pentium.

If the reason for this behaviour is in fact the 100 byte problem mentioned by
one the FreeBSD guys, the only possible way to solve it would be to
set ack_delayed=1 (in the kernel?). Anything we at YARD can do?

Regards

Thomas Schonhoven

PS.: I'll be back in office on Friday.


$ vmstat 2 200
 procs   memory     page                    disks         faults      cpu
 r b w   avm   fre  flt  re  pi  po  fr  sr s0 s1 c0 f0   in   sy  cs us sy id
 3 0 0 79484 34224    9   1   0   0   6   0  2  0  0  0  233   54  13  1  0 98
 2 0 0 83792 34088   19   9   0   0   0   0 21  0  0  0  350 4815 1618 66 29  5
 1 0 0 83956 33924   21   4   0   0   0   0  3  0  0  0  341 5120 1736 67 31  1
 2 0 0 84096 33772   22  18   0   0   0   0  3  0  0  0  333 4983 1686 72 26  2
 1 0 0 80028 33620   21   2   0   0   0   0  3  0  0  0  343 5048 1714 67 32  2
 2 0 0 80176 33472   23  10   0   0   0   0  3  0  0  0  332 4954 1667 72 26  2
 1 0 0 71404 33324   19   3   0   0   0   0  4  0  0  0  336 5048 1714 63 34  2
 1 0 0 71552 33176   20   2   0   0   0   0  3  0  0  0  337 5032 1717 66 32  2
 1 0 0 71692 33036   19  11   0   0   0   0  5  0  0  0  334 5015 1677 66 33  1
 1 0 0 71844 32884   20   1   0   0   0   0  6  0  0  0  340 4991 1693 66 32  2
 1 0 0 63400 32736   20   6   0   0   0   0  5  0  0  0  335 5042 1684 71 28  0
 2 0 0 59372 32584   20   0   0   0   0   0  5  0  0  0  336 4998 1700 66 32  2
 2 0 0 59520 32436   19   8   0   0   0   0  6  0  0  0  335 4992 1677 66 33  2
 2 0 0 59664 32292   19   0   0   0   0   0  5  0  0  0  338 5019 1722 68 30  2
 2 0 0 59812 32144   19   6   0   0   0   0  7  0  0  0  337 4974 1660 69 29  2
 1 0 0 64140 32000   19   0   0   0   0   0  4  0  0  0  340 5102 1745 66 33  1
 2 0 0 72720 31848  149   9   0   0 110   0 10  0  0  0  338 4937 1637 68 30  2
 2 0 0 72868 31700   19   2   0   0   0   0  8  0  0  0  339 4962 1683 66 31  3
 1 0 0 73012 31556   19   3   0   0   0   0  4  0  0  0  344 5021 1721 62 37  1
 1 0 0 73084 31484   13   8   0   0   0   0 38  0  0  0  316 2615 840 32 18 50
 2 0 0 73164 31400   15   0   0   0   0   0  1  0  0  0  283 2546 874 37 13 50
 1 0 0 73308 31256   19   0   0   0   0   0  3  0  0  0  337 5040 1718 64 35  1
 2 0 0 73456 31108   19   6   0   0   0   0  3  0  0  0  336 4908 1647 66 33  1
 1 0 0 73604 30960   19   0   0   0   0   0  3  0  0  0  339 5021 1705 72 27  0
 2 0 0 73748 30816   19   5   0   0   0   0  3  0  0  0  333 4968 1674 70 30  1
 2 0 0 69716 30664   20   0   0   0   0   0  3  0  0  0  337 5045 1719 67 32  1
 1 0 0 61428 30520   19   3   0   0   0   0  3  0  0  0  333 4982 1673 72 27  1
 1 0 0 61580 30368   20   0   0   0   0   0  3  0  0  0  336 5081 1739 67 31  1
 3 0 0 61728 30220   19   0   0   0   0   0  3  0  0  0  336 4990 1681 67 32  2
 1 0 0 61876 30072   19   4   0   0   0   0  3  0  0  0  334 5000 1658 71 28  1
 0 0 0 66124 30004   10   0   0   0   0   0 31  0  0  0  310 2339 751 29 14 57
 0 0 0 70376 29928   10   0   0   0   0   0 21  0  0  0  304 2542 868 34 16 50
 2 0 0 70464 29840   12   3   0   0   0   0  1  0  0  0  290 2858 952 42 16 43
 2 0 0 70608 29696   19   0   0   0   0   0  4  0  0  0  341 5064 1718 68 31  1
 2 0 0 70760 29544   20   3   0   0   0   0  2  0  0  0  334 4973 1654 69 30  1
 2 0 0 70908 29396   19   0   0   0   0   0  3  0  0  0  337 5005 1697 69 30  1
 2 0 0 71056 29248   19   0   0   0   0   0  3  0  0  0  336 4996 1701 72 27  1
 2 0 0 71200 29104   19   3   0   0   0   0  2  0  0  0  333 4980 1668 70 30  1
 1 0 0 71348 28956   19   0   0   0   0   0  3  0  0  0  337 5041 1721 66 33  1
 2 0 0 71500 28804   20   5   0   0   0   0  3  0  0  0  334 4979 1678 69 30  1
 1 0 0 67456 28664   18   0   0   0   0   0  3  0  0  0  333 5044 1715 66 33  0
 2 0 0 63436 28504   21   1   0   0   0   0  4  0  0  0  338 4949 1650 67 31  2
 2 0 0 63580 28360   19   0   0   0   0   0  3  0  0  0  336 5033 1708 66 33  1
 2 0 0 63724 28216   19   4   0   0   0   0  6  0  0  0  337 4964 1659 69 29  1
 2 0 0 63880 28060   20   0   0   0   0   0  3  0  0  0  334 5016 1700 63 35  2
 2 0 0 68204 27920   18   1   0   0   0   0  3  0  0  0  335 4988 1671 72 27  1
 1 0 0 76784 27772   21   0   0   0   1   0 12  0  0  0  344 5016 1695 70 30  1
 1 0 0 76932 27624   19   0   0   0   0   0  7  0  0  0  343 4980 1683 65 33  2
 1 0 0 77072 27484   18   3   0   0   0   0  5  0  0  0  340 4868 1626 64 33  4
 1 0 0 77224 27332   20   0   0   0   0   0  4  0  0  0  340 5035 1697 67 32  1
 2 1 0 77368 27188   19   5   0   0   0   0  7  0  0  0  336 4907 1654 72 27  2
 0 0 0 77372 27184    1   0   0   0   0   0 39  0  0  0  275  397  81  3  2 95
 1 0 0 77516 27040   19   0   0   0   0   0  3  0  0  0  332 4789 1605 66 29  5
 1 0 0 77664 26892   19   2   0   0   0   0  4  0  0  0  339 4928 1648 68 31  1
 2 0 0 77808 26748   19   0   0   0   0   0  4  0  0  0  337 5024 1709 63 36  1
 1 0 0 73772 26600   19   5   0   0   0   0  2  0  0  0  334 4977 1666 68 30  2
 2 0 0 65492 26448   20   0   0   0   0   0  3  0  0  0  337 5028 1703 63 36  1


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