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Date:      Sun, 1 Nov 1998 18:57:13 -0500 (EST)
From:      ADRIAN Filipi-Martin <adrian@ubergeeks.com>
To:        Jordan Hayes <jordan@Thinkbank.COM>
Cc:        hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Stand-alone diskless system ...
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.981101184707.15138B-100000@lorax.ubergeeks.com>
In-Reply-To: <9811012239.AA03494@blood.Thinkbank.COM>

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On Sun, 1 Nov 1998, Jordan Hayes wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm looking for any experiences that people here have had with truely
> diskless machines: not booting over the network, but from say flash
> memory or even a disk that is subsequently powered off.  The goal is
> quiet operation and low-heat generation.  The machine will not be
> saving any "interesting" data, so total loss on power-outtage is fine.
> 
> I'm not on this list, so please direct responses to me.  I'll summarize
> is necessary.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> /jordan

	It works really well.  A week ago I helped some undergrads run an
ACM programming contest.  Since we weren't allowed to convert a dozen of
the public access NT boxes to unix machines (aw shucks ;-), I brought in
our own server, and made a DOS boot floppy using the stuff in
/sys/i386/boo/biosboot.  We booted these machines completely diskless with
kernels stripped down to only network and console IO drivers.  This added
to running everything addressed in 10.x.x.x made for a pretty nice and
limiting contest envrioment.  We ran X and everything else you would want,
and saw no performance problems.  Adding a new machine was as simple as
adding an entry to bootptab and making a private area to mount the
volatile filesytems from, e.g. /var and /tmp.

	Check out the FreeBSD web pages.  There is a little in the
handbook, a little more in the tutorials section and I even found a page
on NetBSD's site illuminating.  It should be enough to figure it out.
That's what I had to do for the contest.  If you run into any specific
problems, you could e-mail me, or maybe people on the questions list
instead of the hackers list.

	When I get a break, I may submit my notes to the handbook or FAQ,
but not just yet.

	Adrian
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