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Date:      Sun, 4 Apr 1999 11:36:36 -0500 (EST)
From:      Alfred Perlstein <bright@rush.net>
To:        Murata Shuuichirou <mrt@notwork.org>
Cc:        Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth <shocking@prth.pgs.com>, current@FreeBSD.ORG, wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu
Subject:   Re: More on rl0 woes
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.990404113125.4169W-100000@cygnus.rush.net>
In-Reply-To: <87soagd15f.fsf@kotonoha.s.notwork.org>

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On 4 Apr 1999, Murata Shuuichirou wrote:

> In message <199904040913.RAA26683@ariadne.tensor.pgs.com>,
>  `shocking@prth.pgs.com' wrote:
> > On the offchance that mty problems were chipset related, I swapped the
> > RealTek with the de0 card in my other machine, a 233MHz k6. It being a
> > socket 7 mboard presumably has a later PCI bios. Still the same symptoms -
> > hangs on NFS access. These can be interrupted and other network traffic
> > continues fine. To reproduce, take your RealTek equipped machine and place a
> > copy of /usr/src on it. Export /usr/src so that it can be NFS mounted by
> > other machines. From the other machines, do an ls -CFR of /usr/src. It will
> > hang partway through.
> 
> I have probably same problem here.  NFS hangs and other
> network traffic is still alive.  Though, my situation
> differs a little from yours.  I have two RealTek NFS clients
> and NFS server has another chip.  Both of RealTek NFS clients
> (Celeron 300MHz and MediaGX 266MHz) have the problem.
> 
> To reproduce:
>         Install bytebench on the RealTek machine.
>         Set env var TMPDIR to somewhere NFS mounted dir.
>         Do "bytebench fstime".

I have a solution and a workaround for you guys,

solution:
 ditch the cheap PoS cards and get an fxp or xl card

workaround:
 switch from UDP to TCP mounts or TCP to UDP, make sure the packet size
 used for the NFS mounts is a small value, try NFSv3, or if you are already
 using NFSv3, try NFSv2.

Yes, the workaround seems like "just try several permutations", but I 
experianced the same problems, tweaking my NFS mounts, especially to use 
smaller read/write values made the problem go away.  I think that switching
to TCP may help.

When i got some decent network hardware, my problems went away.

-Alfred



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