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Date:      Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:38:44 -0400 (EDT)
From:      "Matthew N. Dodd" <winter@jurai.net>
To:        Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au>
Cc:        Marc Slemko <marcs@znep.com>, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu
Subject:   Re: Lite-On PNIC (fwd) 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.02.9810071431420.16487-100000@sasami.jurai.net>
In-Reply-To: <199810071821.LAA01419@dingo.cdrom.com>

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On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Mike Smith wrote:
> > You're proposing to provide Bill with examples of -all- the different
> > varients of the Tulip cards and enough hard drugs to keep in in the state
> > of mind required to do the work?
> 
> I was actually planning on just feeding the non-Digital-based cards to 
> Bill, as most of them are cut-downs.  We're certainly more than happy 
> to facilitate providing hardware to developers, especially ones with 
> track records like Bill's. 8)

You didn't say anything about the hard drugs. :)

> It almost certainly would be.  The problem is that the 'de' driver is 
> (meant to be) maintained by Matt Thomas, who has been extremely quiet 
> of late (due to a move and other things).  We've supplied Matt with 
> hardware in the past (eg. a Macronix card a month or so back), but his 
> responses have been kinda patchy, and as you've seen the net result is 
> an almost unmaintainable mess.

Humm... My experience with Matt has been rather good but the last time I
talked to him re: the de driver was about 3 years ago when I was trying to
get a Znyx 314 card to work.

In all likelyhood the multi OS nature of the de driver is what is causing
the most problem.

> Having spent some time headfirst in the 'de' dungheap, I'd be inclined 
> to say that it really needs to be a pile of well-specified function 
> vectors with a large heap of access and personality macros.  There's 
> just far too much "if tulip_chipid == foo" logic in there, not to 
> mention more #ifdefs than anyone wants to see.

Cool.  Coherent design.

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