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Date:      Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:25:46 -0800 (PST)
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@whistle.com>
To:        Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au>
Cc:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>, Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@flood.ping.uio.no>, Darren Reed <darrenr@reed.wattle.id.au>, committers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: sysctl descriptions 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.05.9901100223440.3712-100000@s204m82.isp.whistle.com>
In-Reply-To: <199901100738.XAA03998@dingo.cdrom.com>

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I'm with you on this
however poul's already nuked the commit.
can something be done about this.
how does one apply to core for an un-nuking of a nuke by core?


On Sat, 9 Jan 1999, Mike Smith wrote:

> > There is NO reason whatsoever to load it with the kernel.  Next thing
> > you will what to stick documentation for all ioctl(2) calls into the
> > kernel.
> > 
> > KLD's could easily stick files into:
> > 
> > 	/usr/share/doc/sysctl/desc/this/is/my/sysctl.txt
> > 
> > with descriptions.
> 
> No, they can't.  There's also no guarantee that the KLD module file 
> will be readable at run time.  Please start thinking "dynamic kernel 
> appears from nowhere".  There is no guarantee that you can do anything 
> related to the kernel without going to or through the kernel for it.  
> Live with it.
> 
> > Yes, I agree that sysctls should be better documented, No, I don't
> > agree that there is any reason for wasting RAM on it.
> 
> If you don't want the descriptions, don't build them into your kernel.  
> 
> Meantime, please feel free to work out a compromise solution whereby 
> descriptions can come from more than one source.  And then a better one 
> where you can guarantee that the two sources will always stay in sync.
> 
> As it is, sysctl-as-it-is' life it limited.  Don't get too emotional 
> about another bandaid on its creaking frame.
> 
> -- 
> \\  Sometimes you're ahead,       \\  Mike Smith
> \\  sometimes you're behind.      \\  mike@smith.net.au
> \\  The race is long, and in the  \\  msmith@freebsd.org
> \\  end it's only with yourself.  \\  msmith@cdrom.com
> 
> 
> 


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