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Date:      Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:45:26 -0600 (MDT)
From:      Brett Taylor <brett@peloton.physics.montana.edu>
To:        "Mr. M" <mistrM@gtemail.net>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   RE: Amusing: LinuxCountry site runs on FreeBSD :)
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.05.9906161636160.26305-100000@peloton.physics.montana.edu>
In-Reply-To: <000c01beb83b$f0d7ac40$982b20d8@MM.compulsiv.com>

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Hi,

On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Mr. M wrote:

> I came from a DOS/Windoze world to Linux and now FreeBSD.  Too put it
> bluntly the lack of decent documentation for FreeBSD is what is
> keeping people away.  Other than the seriously ancient book from
> Walnut Creek and the Manual on freebsd.org there is nothing out there.

I assume you mean "The Complete FreeBSD" - there's a new version available
now and the last version was for 2.2.8 (? I think ?).  

> There are so many resources for Linux users it's not funny.  I can't
> believe how many books are on the shelf at my local bookstore.  I
> swear I thought I saw "The Joy of Linux Sex" and "Martha Stewart's
> Linux Living"! <jk>

> Where is "Running FreeBSD" from O'Reilly?  How about another 70lb book
> from SAMS called "FreeBSD Unleased"?

The reason there are a plethora of Linux books is because publishers know
anything with Linux, even "The Joy of Linux Sex", will sell.  Are the
majority of those books useful?  -shrug-  My advisor for my PhD bought
Unix Unleashed a few years ago - he's never touched it to my knowledge.  

The reason there are so few FreeBSD books:

	1)  because FreeBSD is derived from 4.4-BSD, any book on a BSD 
	    Unix will apply (for most situations)

	2)  because FreeBSD is typically used by experienced sys admins 
	    whereas Linux has (or had originally) the college hacker; 
	    the experienced admins already have books on BSD style unix 

	3)  no one, but Greg Lehey has written one;  Greg has asked (if 
	    I recall a thread from maybe 2 years ago) O'Reilly if they'd 
	    be interested and they said no

> If you want to see FreeBSD become more popular you have to make more
> resources available to people so it will be much easier for them to
> learn.

I started from scratch w/ 2.1.7 and I've been running it since then.  Yes,
the learning curve was steep, but frankly the -questions mailing list and
the Handbook were enough for me to figure out how to get things working
right.  Any other info I needed was from man pages or Unix for the
Impatient.  

If you want more docs/books, help write them.  I'm sure that FreeBSD-zine
would be happy to receive info/tutorials as would Daemon News (I'm a
co-editor).  

Brett
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