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Date:      Sat, 26 Jun 1999 11:51:59 +0100 (BST)
From:      Doug Rabson <dfr@nlsystems.com>
To:        Peter Wemm <peter@netplex.com.au>
Cc:        Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au>, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org, msmith@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: AARGH!! "dead" Alpha 164SX (Was: Re: OK, any pointers on how to use SRM? :-)) 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.05.9906261150020.80685-100000@herring.nlsystems.com>
In-Reply-To: <19990626094314.68C0775@overcee.netplex.com.au>

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On Sat, 26 Jun 1999, Peter Wemm wrote:

> Mike Smith wrote:
> > > 
> > > Well, the problem has been found..  Mike Smith gave me a new graphoil pad
> > > to use since the heatsink was taken off for transit..  But the new one was
> > > bigger than required and the thought never occurred that it might have been
> > > rather conductive and that it was going to short out those 12 capacitors on
> > > the top of the CPU surface, which, BTW, were between 3.3V and ground.
> > 
> > "Aargh shit".  I never even thought to check that.
> 
> Likewise, it took me 8 hours to realize the first boot for 30 seconds that
> I got the first time was with the heatsink off..  Once I realized that, then
> I got one of those "Hmm, I wonder if...." kind of feelings and sure enough..
> 
> > > It all makes sense now.   "Aargh Shit!" certainly seems appropriate.
> > > Anyway, after some careful trimming of the pad, I've now got it running to
> > > the point of SRM startup...  (And there was I thinking I'd found a hairline
> > > crack in one of the mounts for a component from transit damage in my
> > > luggage..)
> > 
> > Whee, happiness!
> 
> It seems to run reliably at 533MHz as well.  If the kernel has softupdates
> compiled in, all sorts of things fail during boot including sysctl and
> sometimes mount_nfs.  If softupdates are active, not just in the kernel,
> then 'make world' wedges 5 seconds into the bootstrap build of make.  This
> is the same at both 400MHz and 533MHz.  Compiling softupdates out has
> resulted in an (apparently) happy system at 533.
> 
> The next good question is.. what's up with softupdates? :-]  Hmm.. say,
> that NCR controller you gave me, is that the one that was screwing up on
> freefall by any chance?

Softupdates normally works very well on my alphas. I think that there is
some kind of hardware problem with that machine. I'm just building a fresh
current kernel with softupdates so we will see.

--
Doug Rabson				Mail:  dfr@nlsystems.com
Nonlinear Systems Ltd.			Phone: +44 181 442 9037




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