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Date:      Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:11:32 -0600 (CST)
From:      Ryan Thompson <freebsd@sasknow.com>
To:        Colin Campbell <sgcccdc@citec.qld.gov.au>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FTP: 425 Can't build data connection: operation timed out
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.10001272143050.55916-200000@sasknow.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10001281342090.10829-100000@guru.citec.qld.gov.au>

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On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, Colin Campbell wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> The data connection timing out means the remote ftp server cannot connect
> to your box. It will be coming from port 20 back to your box on a port
> nominated by your ftp client. Something is blocking the connection from
> the remote server. Do you have packet filters or similar on your box?

Indeed, I am running ipfw... However, the setup is, and has always been
open.  FTP worked like a charm as of the 25th (every 2 hours, even :-).

Connections TO the ftp server on the router from localhost, local LAN and
remote hosts work correctly.

Tried turning passive mode on on one of these buggy connections (example
with ftp.cdrom.com:

ftp> passive
Passive mode on.
ftp> ls
500 'ORT 139,142,245,96,168,88': command not understood
Passive mode refused.
ftp> ls
500 '': command not understood
Passive mode refused.
ftp> ls
227 Entering passive mode (209,155,82,18,96,167)
ftp: connect: Connection refused
ftp> passive
Passive mode off.

Funny...?  I never knew there was an 'ORT' command... I don't think that's
in the RFC :-)

I tried going in via telnet wcarchive.cdrom.com 21, then logging in and
supplying my own port command to send/receive on port 21.  Still, no luck.
Received the 425 Can't build data connection ... error after a few
minutes.

Attached is tcpdump output (fed through "grep wcarchive") for a session
like the one above.  I'm not the best at deciphering tcpdump output... But
maybe somebody can clue me in.

For kicks, I even tried a tcpdump on the internal network's NIC on the
router while I was trying this, but didn't see anything out of the
ordinary.

--
  Ryan Thompson <ryan@sasknow.com>	50% Owner, Sysadmin
  SaskNow Technologies     		http://www.sasknow.com
  #106-380 3120 8th St E   		Saskatoon, SK  S7H 0W2

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