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Date:      Tue, 13 Jul 1999 10:45:05 -0400 (EDT)
From:      "Brian F. Feldman" <green@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Luigi Rizzo <luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it>
Cc:        luigi@iet.unipi.it, hackers@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Why 'dd' does not seek over 'char' devs (specifically raw disk
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.9907131042310.76301-100000@janus.syracuse.net>
In-Reply-To: <199907131212.OAA08560@labinfo.iet.unipi.it>

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On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Luigi Rizzo wrote:

> > > Hi, i have a question.
> > > 
> > > Why 'dd' does not seek over 'char' devs (specifically raw disk partitions).
> > 
> > Not all character devices support seeking. So, we work with the LCD...
> > Sorry, I don't like this either. It would be better, maybe, just to fix
> > character devices.
> 
> couldn't we first try lseek and only do the reads on char devs where
> the lseek fails ?

lseek() won't usually fail unless it's something like EBADF. It merely
sets the current fd's offset. It would be nice to be able to tell from
a device driver if it supports seeking (da) or not (sa). Hmm... actually,
if we just specify somehow that we support either direct or sequential
access... this would be possible.

> 
> > You certainly make a good case. modify your local copy of dd to do 
> > what you want.
> 
> generally this is not the kind of things you can do when your system
> has already gone bad (this was a laptop's disk...)
> 

The problem is that dd skip= is used a lot on tape devices. Here, a
seek would not work.

> > > 
> > > I notice that on output lseek _is_ used also on char devices.
> > 
> > And how else would you do it?
> 
> ok, stupid observation!
> 
> 	cheers
> 	luigi
> 
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