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Date:      Sat, 9 Oct 1999 13:07:59 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Mike Meyer <mwm@phone.net>
To:        freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: install newer version over old one...
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.9910091254450.357-100000@guru.phone.net>
In-Reply-To: <19991009101642.A80651@rucus.ru.ac.za>

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On Sat, 9 Oct 1999, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote:
:->
:->On Fri 1999-10-08 (22:15), Scot W. Hetzel wrote:
:->> Then the ssh2 port needs to have it's package name changed to ssh2-2.0.13.
:->No, it shouldn't.
:->I mean, at one stage we had vim, and vim5, where vim was version
:->4, and vim5 was version 5.

I agree in general, but disagree in this instance.

:->You can't expect to have a vim-4.3.2 package and a vim5-5.0.1
:->package.

Question - can we expect that everyone will *eventually* move to vim
5? Or, for my favorite example, the gtk1# ports - don't we expect that
eventually the earlier versions will vanish as other ports move to the
new ones?

:->What we really need is a mechanism to show the scope of upgrades
:->- whether ssh-2.0.0 _really_ upgrades ssh-1.2.27.

Unless "really" means "we can expect all users to move to some point
in the future", this isn't right. From what I can tell, ssh2 upgrades
ssh1 in every technical sense. Unfortunately, the new licensing
restrictions mean that some people can't or won't use the newer
version, and support is coming from a group other than the original
developers. So what we really have are two *different* products from a
common code base.

Possibly what I'm arguing is that the "mechanism" you're asking for be
the package name - sans version number, and package/port names that
include a version number as part of the name should be avoided at all
costs.

	<mike




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