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Date:      Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:18:34 +0100 (CET)
From:      Jan Conrad <conrad@th.physik.uni-bonn.de>
To:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Why was rsh removed from the fixit floppy? 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0001201803280.44187-100000@merlin.th.physik.uni-bonn.de>
In-Reply-To: <6270.948303162@zippy.cdrom.com>

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On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:

> > Why was it removed?
> > If there are no good reasons, please could somebody put back rsh onto the
> > floppy! Currently I don't see how to do cloning easily without rsh?
> 
> The fixit floppy is very full and its days as a truly useful tool are
> sort of numbered.

Well - after thinking on this for a while I'd still suggest to eliminate
telnet in favor of rsh/rlogin. The reason is that you can really do a
*lot* of things with rsh (especially compared to telnet..)

I now resolved the problem by mounting the root dir of the other machine
by nfs and copying directly from that. Doing this I found - to my great
surprise - that FreeBSD's root filesystem neither contains rsh/rlogin nor
tar!!

I would *strongly* suggest to put rsh/rlogin + tar onto the root
filesystem. I allways found these commands to be *extremely* useful in
single user mode with all other partitions unmounted (e.g. when
reorganizing the structure of my partitions/disks etc.)

How about it?

> 
> > By the way: How about putting the boot + fixit stuff onto a cdrom
> 
> That's what CD #2 of every Walnut Creek CDROM product is.

Sounds good... Does it contain rsh/rlogin + tar??

Anyway - supporting FreeBSD by buying the CDROMs is a great idea - no
doubt... But shouldn't be there a way of installing FreeBSD with CDROMs
instead of floppies - I mean with a *small* iso image of some megabytes
length to do the rest over the network (think of STABLE...).


> 
> - Jordan
> 
regards
	Jan



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