Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 11:34:24 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org> To: aaron <aaron@meta.lo-res.org> Cc: Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>, Joe Halpin <joe.halpin@attbi.com>, "current@FreeBSD.ORG" <current@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: spam Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0112221127490.63554-100000@InterJet.elischer.org> In-Reply-To: <20011222171949.K62162-100000@meta.lo-res.org>
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I would suggest that we use a 'modified' subscription method, where simply being mentionned in the list is enough to subscribe.. Now, before you laugh.. there's a twist.. any address found in the archives is automatically subscribed and that includes in the text.. also any mail not subscribed it treated as if it were a moderated list. i.e. sent for OK to someone. once that peson OKs it the person can send mail. I'd suggest that there be a mailing list of 'moderators' maybe 20 or so people to take the load (I'm talking about -current and -hackers here) the people just 'forward the mail to -current or -hackers if they think it's ok, and delete it if it's spam or if they already saw it go through.. The act of forwarding the mail will subscribe the sender. On Sat, 22 Dec 2001, aaron wrote: > On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, Matthew Dillon wrote: > > > > > :I'm starting to get spam since I joined this list, and the spam is > > :coming from freebsd.org. If I'm reading the headers right, it's coming > > :in through a freebsd.org mail server. > > > > Ha. In the last two weeks the amount of personal spam I receive has > > gone up exponentially. I'm getting around 60 a day now. I'm not > > surprised that the list is seeing a big increase. > > > > I can only hope that our illustrious congress has grown as tired of > > spam as I have and will fix the law to simply ban it. > > I doubt it: > a) the have secretaries (if at all!) to read the mail > b) spam = money > > the solution must lie in something with authentication. E.g. everyone > subscribing to this list has to submit his/her pub key and every message > should be signed. > I image this as something like a quasi-moderated list. If you post > something to the list it will first be read by a moderator. If the > moderator agrees on the fact that this is not spam, it _must_ be accepted > to the list and thereby the sig / pub key is inserted into a DB. Future mails > arriving from the just included submitter will be sent to the list without > moderation. > > Thus the moderator is a a one time check for submitters. only people > interested in the subject will pass. spammers wont have the time to get > interested in -current internals. (usually). After passing once you are > free to post as before. > > I know many people wont like the idea presented above. But it is the only > reasonable check I can think of that would exclude spam while at the same > time permitting reasonable open access. > Of course I am open to better ideas. > > greetings, > aaron (Vienna) > > --- > COSHER = Completely Open Source, Headers, Engineering, and Research > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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