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Date:      Fri, 5 Apr 2002 18:48:09 -0600 (CST)
From:      Nick Rogness <nick@rogness.net>
To:        Alex Rousskov <rousskov@measurement-factory.com>
Cc:        freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Forcing packets to the wire
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0204051826180.95757-100000@cody.jharris.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10204051543440.54230-100000@measurement-factory.com>

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On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Alex Rousskov wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
> 	I have two Ethernet NICs inside a PC. I want TCP/IP packets to
> leave one NIC, go on the wire, and eventually arrive at the other NIC.
> I do not want the kernel to be smart and shortcut the path. I want the
> outside world to see the packets and to think that my two NICs are two
> PCs talking to each other.
> 
> 	Could any networking guru answer the following questions:
> 
> 	- Is it possible without kernel modifications? How?

	AFAIK, No.  Your only 2 possiblities that I could think of would
	be to use policy routing or natd.  Both will fail in this case.

> 
> 	- If kernel modifications are required, how extensive
> 	  would they be (e.g., how many hours would it take a guru
> 	  to implement the required functionality)?
> 

	I'm not sure, but I would assume it would be painful.


> 	I am flexible as far as IP addressing scheme is concerned,
> though I would prefer to be able to put both NIC IP addresses on one
> and on separate subnets (from the outside world point of view). Again,
> I want the outside world think that these NICs are inside two PCs.
> 

	This is violating basic routing principles so it doesn't matter
	which IP subnets you use.


> 	If you want to know a "use case" for this strange requirement,
> here it is: I am building an appliance to test HTTP proxies. I want an
> appliance to have one NIC for the "client side" and one NIC for the
> "server side". I want to be able to run no-proxy test through the
> networking gear (a baseline experiment testing hubs/switches for
> bottlenecks), and I want to test "transparent proxies" (clients think
> they send requests directly to servers).
> 
> 
	There is probably a better solution than trying to hack the kernel
	to do this.  From the above paragraph, it sounds like you could
	bridge across the 2 interfaces and do some tricks with IPFW to
	direct traffic for your transparent proxy stuff.  I would need
	more details to be sure.


Nick Rogness <nick@rogness.net>
 - Don't mind me...I'm just sniffing your packets




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