Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 22:59:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org> To: Daniel Eischen <eischen@pcnet1.pcnet.com> Cc: freebsd-threads@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PS_BLOCKED Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0304062258430.55025-100000@InterJet.elischer.org> In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10304062337070.15892-100000@pcnet1.pcnet.com>
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On Sun, 6 Apr 2003, Daniel Eischen wrote: > On Sun, 6 Apr 2003, Julian Elischer wrote: > > On Mon, 7 Apr 2003, David Xu wrote: > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Daniel Eischen" <eischen@pcnet1.pcnet.com> > > > To: "David Xu" <davidxu@freebsd.org> > > > Cc: <freebsd-threads@freebsd.org> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 8:39 PM > > > Subject: Re: PS_BLOCKED > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 6 Apr 2003, David Xu wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Daniel Eischen" <eischen@pcnet1.pcnet.com> > > > > > To: "DavidXu" <davidxu@freebsd.org> > > > > > Cc: <freebsd-threads@freebsd.org> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 2:40 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: PS_BLOCKED > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > I'll do some more debugging today and see if it is in the > > > > UTS or the kernel. > > > > > > > > > > Note that Jeff's change to signal code in kernel also broke > > > our kse_release code, because the upcall thread is waiting for > > > signal in kse_release too, but now it is possible the upcall > > > thread won't receive any signal, signal is delivered to a > > > non-upcall thread and lost. > > > > > > > > > One question. What happens when kse_release(tsp) is > > > > > > called when k_mbx.km_curthread == NULL? Does it > > > > > > just return after the timeout, or is there a new > > > > > > upcall? > > > > > > > > > > A new upcall will be scheduled, does not return. > > > > > > > > Is there a way that we could get it to just return? I would > > > > like to make PTHREAD_SCOPE_SYSTEM threads (one thread per > > > > KSE/KSEG) work without a separate scheduler stack. We > > > > should be able to do everything from the thread's stack. > > > > I'd be willing to add a flag or something to the KSE > > > > mailbox to get this behaviour. > > > > > > > > > > It can be done by add a flags to kse_mailbox.km_flags to > > > tell kernel to not schedule an upcall. > > > > If you have this behaviour, please make it an option. Possibly > > One way to do this would be to call kse_create, with the > > 'new-ksegrp' flag set but the mailbox pointer set to NULL. > > > > However why do you want to use kse_release for this. > > If you have only one thread in the KSEGRP then I'd call this > > "usleep()". > > It's so that the common code (called by both scope system > threads and scope process threads) can be the same. I don't > want to have to add checks all over the place to see if the > KSE is bound to a thread or not. Also, nanosleep doesn't > work well because you can't wake it up with a KSE mailbox > (kse_wakeup), plus there's a race condition if you try and > wake it up before it actually gets to the kernel to sleep. > The kse_wakeup() call is latched, so if it gets to the kernel > first, the next kse_release() will notice it. you cannot wake up a thread with no upcall mailbox using kse_wakeup because there is no thread mailbox address to match. > > > I think kse_release should be left alone. > > It should never return. > > Actually, I think it should obey all the rules that system > calls do. If the mailbox pointer is NULL, it returns > normally (after timing out or getting woken up); otherwise > an upcall is scheduled. > > -- > Dan Eischen > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-threads@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-threads > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-threads-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >
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