Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 04:31:55 -0400 (EDT) From: jack <jack@xtalwind.net> To: hmmm <hmmm@alaska.net> Cc: freebsd-questions <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: user ppp Message-ID: <Pine.FBS.3.95.960914041522.2660C-100000@zeus.xtalwind.net> In-Reply-To: <3239F50E.D6D@alaska.net>
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On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, hmmm wrote:
> > ppp -auto <whatever>
>
> -i- don't see a PID for PPP when started as a daemon (-auto)
> are you sure ?
Never peeked into /var/run/PPP.<whatever> have you? Or entered
ps -ax | grep ppp That gives me:
165 ?? Ss -0:04.18 ppp -auto cwc-demand
Gee, that 165 sure looks like the contents of /var/run/PPP.cwc-demand
zeus:jack {8} cat /var/run/PPP.cwc-demand
165
zeus:jack {9}
> actually, httpd doesn't show either.
I don't have that running here, but a quick telnet to the office turns up:
17601 ?? I 0:00.33 /usr/local/etc/httpd/src/httpd -f /usr/local/etc/http
17613 ?? I 0:00.26 /usr/local/etc/httpd/src/httpd -f /usr/local/etc/http
17614 ?? I 0:00.26 /usr/local/etc/httpd/src/httpd -f /usr/local/etc/http
17640 ?? I 0:00.28 /usr/local/etc/httpd/src/httpd -f /usr/local/etc/http
17697 ?? I 0:00.28 /usr/local/etc/httpd/src/httpd -f /usr/local/etc/http
17725 ?? I 0:00.13 /usr/local/etc/httpd/src/httpd -f /usr/local/etc/http
17763 ?? I 0:00.09 /usr/local/etc/httpd/src/httpd -f /usr/local/etc/http
17783 ?? I 0:00.06 /usr/local/etc/httpd/src/httpd -f /usr/local/etc/http
29753 ?? Ss 0:52.03 /usr/local/etc/httpd/src/httpd -f /usr/local/etc/http
> i don't
> believe daemons have PIDs ...
It's not a question of belief, it's a fact that they do.
> i'd like to know why daemons are special,
They aren't.
> ie, why can't they
> be binaries that can be started & stopped like any other process?
They are.
> please forgive me if i'm being ignorant!
You're forgiven. ;)
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