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Date:      Fri, 9 Jul 1999 09:14:46 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Dirk Kleinhesselink <djk@djk.saintl.com>
To:        freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Alpha 500a ok
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.10.9907090907540.360-100000@djk.saintl.com>

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> Mark Holloway wrote:

>> Hi FreeBSD/Alpha people..[snip]Some people have asked me why I'm
>> looking at Alpha and not Intel.  Right now I have an Intel/FreeBSD
>> machine at home and it works great.  However, I've always looked for
>> the best "bang for the buck" and $1400 is a pretty low price to pay
>> for the Alpha and I feel the components are built better.  The SpecINT
>> on the Alpha 500 is still higher than any other used RISC based
>> machine in this price range (Sparc 20, SGI Indy, all with SpecINT
>> around 2.5 -> 4.5). Does anyone know of any issues or quirks with the
>> Alpha 500a machines?  Or are they pretty stable?
>
>
>  One word on the Spec* benchmarks: I guess the quoted numbers are the
> ones published by DEC. They probably used their highly polished compiler
> to produce the benchmark binaries --- on DEC OSF/1 a.k.a. True64 or what
> they changed the name to. On Net/FreeBSD you'll have to rely on the
> gcc/egcs family of compilers whose optimization for Alpha is less than
> perfect. At least, it was like that until gcc2.8.1 (I lost track of
> recent development). So, if you really get the best 'bang for the buck'
> is questionable.
> 
>  Any better information on that? I haven't seen any good benches for
> Alpha/Linux or *BSD recently.

>  For myself, I'd go with the Alpha every day, just because it's got more
> style, but that's a different story.
> 
> -Rain
Compaq has released for beta testing their Digital UNIX FORTRAN compiler
ported to Linux/Alpha and this seems to be working pretty well, at least
for me and for some of the people who've commented on it in the
redhat-alpha list.  Can Linux apps work on FreeBSD/alpha as they do for
FreeBSD/386 ?  I intend to try FreeBSD/alpha as soon as I can get my ARC
based PC164 over to SRM.  BTW the newest SRM recognizes and will boot from
IDE drives, so I hope the FreeBSD/alpha developers can take advantage of
this.  OpenBSD will boot and install to IDE drives from SRM.

Dirk




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