Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 09:23:21 -0800 (PST) From: "Jeremy C. Reed" <reed@reedmedia.net> To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Taming Netscape Navigator? Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.43.0203020853270.2796-100000@pilchuck.reedmedia.net> In-Reply-To: <3C7FB956.18428.510B414@localhost>
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Thanks for all the feedback. My responses are below to to different postings. Plus I have some more comments and questions at the bottom. On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Freddie Cash wrote: > begin Somewhere around 16:41 on March 01, 2002, Jeremy wrote: I don't use Outlook :) > pkg_deinstall netscape > pkg_add -r linux-opera It's probably been over a year since I last used Opera. It was quite unstable and unusable. > Haven't had a browser-related problem in close to a year now. :) Even > have Java running now. I'll have to try it again. On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: > There's no real file I/O happening (unless you're really short on RAM and > thrashing the swap), it's just being painfully slow about calculating out > the table. It is also slow for me to just look at long 100KB webpages that have very little formatting (and no tables). > It's a lot slower rendering big tables (like 10 vs. 30 minutes, for some > *BIG* tables I've passed through 'em), and isn't near as snappy overall, You are patient. After a couple minutes, I log on remotely to kill all the netscapes. On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Mike Meyer wrote: > written. I rm -rf ~/.netscape every time I run it, though. I'll have to try that (after I backup my bookmarks to a different directory). > I use w3m. When I hit a page that bobby would disapprove of most > highly, I hit 2M and skipstone opens on that page. If it sucks so > badly that the Mozilla rendering engine configured the way I like it > doesn't make it readable and I really need to read it, I hit 3M and up > pops Netscape. I use links as my browser of choice -- probably around 85% of my browsing. I'll have to see if it has those try-another-browser features. It has been almost 20 months since I have last used w3m. In http://www.bsdtoday.com/2000/May/Features167.html, I said "w3m may become my web browser of choice." I need to try it again. (Thanks for the reminder!) (As for those "2M" and "3M" shortcuts, I also have a shortcut: I have a little app where I first copy/select a URL and then click on this application; left click=lynx, right-click=links, and middle is netscape.) On Sat, 2 Mar 2002, Cliff Sarginson wrote: > day. It just disappears. I have an alias set for "rm ~/.netscape/lock". I have a script to kill all netscapes|navigators and remove the lock too. > But do you mean netscape 4.7x ? Or Mozilla, or netscape-mozilla, or > Linux-netscape-mozilla, or netscape-6-mozilla, or stawberry ice-cream ? I didn't get into specifics about netscape, because all versions seem to behave the same under different BSD and Linux operating systems. > Opera, buggy as it is, beats the pants off any other browser I have > used. When it gets stabilised I will be very happy. It tends to take up Opera was fast last I used it, but the old versions I used crashed multiple times a day. Netscape is usable for me; usually it only crashes once a week (even when it is used probably over 100 pages per day and sometimes over 25 windows open at a time). I just don't like netscape getting so sluggish that I can't work on anything else (because my window manager, blackbox, becomes unusable.) On Sat, 2 Mar 2002, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Why not change browsers? Opera has several UNIX versions of their browser, > and if the UNIX versions are anything like the Windows version, it should be > very solid and reliable--about 100 times more solid and reliable than > Netscape, which has got to be one of the worst browsers around. "Should be". I haven't used any full-feature, graphical browser that is more reliable than navigator. On Sat, 2 Mar 2002, Cliff Sarginson wrote: > I think the message here is, if you can, change browsers. > I have to use it for my work. > Fortunately I don't have to use it for my pleasure :) Well, I'll try opera again and maybe also skipstone (and other "lite" mozillas). Also, I need to try "dillo" again. It is partially based on gzilla, but has had some sporatic, but active development. But it is lacking many features -- so only an in-between-links-and-netscape option. But what about "controlling" netscape? How or why does it make my X and/or window manager unusable? Has anyone ran netscape as a different user and set different limits/priorities for it? Thanks again for the feedback. Jeremy C. Reed http://www.reedmedia.net/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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