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Date:      Tue, 8 Apr 2008 01:54:43 +0200 (CEST)
From:      Eberhard Moenkeberg <emoenke@gwdg.de>
To:        hubs@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: package distribution crisis - CDN needed
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.64.0804080149160.10070@gwdu05.gwdg.de>
In-Reply-To: <20080408002005.W15502@fledge.watson.org>
References:  <1207605059.1031.38.camel@ikaros.oook.cz> <20080408002005.W15502@fledge.watson.org>

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Hi,

On Tue, 8 Apr 2008, Robert Watson wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Apr 2008, Pav Lucistnik wrote:
=20
> > Okay the situation recently was that the mirrors had no chance keeping =
up
> > with all the package sets I've been uploading to ftp-master.
> >
> > We clearly need to move beyond rsync/cvsup synced ftp mirrors. This doe=
s not
> > scale.
> >
> > I do propose a creation of a CDN (Content Delivery Network), having the=
se
> > features:
>=20
> The success of a CDN is premised on the working set of active files being
> [significantly] smaller than the set of available files.  While I don't d=
oubt
> that only a few packages are of interest to most users, for a CDN to prov=
ide a
> real benefit it needs to be the case that no users require most files.  T=
he
> reason being that, if you have to transfer all or even most files every t=
ime,
> a CDN may well be a significantly less efficient way to do it than rsync.=
 Has
> a working set analysis for our main mirrors been done that demonstrates t=
hat
> the actual working set is sufficiently smaller than the total set that a =
CDN
> would be more, rather than less, efficient?

Maybe it is interesting for you to have a look at=20

http://www.poeml.de/~poeml/talks/redirector/

The SUSE team has a redirection mechanism at work on single file basis,=20
and they also have experienced that it would be "enough" for the users if=
=20
there are lots of mirrors with the "most requested" files plus some=20
mirrors with all files.

It is all GPL, so you (even you) should be able to use the software.


Viele Gr=FC=DFe
Eberhard M=F6nkeberg (emoenke@gwdg.de, em@kki.org)
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