Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 00:19:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Jaye Mathisen <mrcpu@cdsnet.net> To: Michael Smith <msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Cc: dennis@etinc.com, tim@futuresouth.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: if_de.c ???? Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.3.95.970507000406.1963b-100000@mail.cdsnet.net> In-Reply-To: <199705070108.KAA15806@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
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On Wed, 7 May 1997, Michael Smith wrote: > Jaye Mathisen stands accused of saying: > Er, I think Matt Thomas would be very surprised to hear that his > driver is "dead". I don't really think you have any sort of right > to go making those claims. OK, in the FreeBSD vein, it's wounded. I'm sure it works fine in other places, hell, my latest Solaris release just added support for oodles of 21140-AC based cards, so they must think it's good. (1 year after FreeBSD was pushing them hard). > > Kinda pathetic, really. Especially from people (30 or 40 cards?) > that obviously have the resources, and would be quite happy to > benefit from someone else's hard work at no expense to themselves. I have offered to pay for services in the past for various attempts to get something I needed for my operation working, but have never received any interest in anybody taking my money. If it's never worked in the past, I didn't see any reason to try now. I have offered new hardware (Mylex and disks) to anybody that would be willing to take a whack at writing a driver for it. (Not that anybody is required to by any stretch, only that I'm willing to commit resources to things that I need or could really use.). Hell, I provide the site that Matt uses to distribute his stuff. Not that it's a big deal at the time, other than setting it up provided me a way to access his work sooner. > > > And so I'll start purchasing intel cards, and 8 months from now, the > > Novell NE2000 cards will be the hot card to have. > > Or, you can help with the 'de' cards and keep your inventory. So tell me how? I will send a card to anybody that will make some effort to fix it. Give me an address, and it's on it's way. I can provide machines to test it on. I have 3 or 4 issues that I consider moderately serious floating out there. I have kernel coredumps, I have I think any diagnostic that a person could need to fix it. What I don't have is takers. > > It's like FreeBSD is always at this "80%" useful stage. It always seems > > I've ranted enough about this before. Let me just say "volunteer testing" > one more time. Well, 80% was way too low a number, I should've said something more like 95% or so. Certainly it meets a vast majority of my needs. I test every release that comes out, and send in bug reports as I find 'em, I have machines whose only purpose in life is to be wipable the moment some significant FreeBSD event occurs. I contribute where I can. Drivers are not my thing. They're black magic. Anyway, I wasn't trying to offend anybody, only express my pov.
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