Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 20:39:33 -0800 (PST) From: Jaye Mathisen <mrcpu@internetcds.com> To: "Russell L. Carter" <rcarter@pinyon.org> Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>, John Birrell <jb@cimlogic.com.au>, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New aout-to-elf build failures. Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.3.95.981230203704.634j-100000@schizo.cdsnet.net> In-Reply-To: <199812310354.UAA28368@psf.Pinyon.ORG>
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I don't dispute any of this, as long as when all is said and done, there is a relatively simple way for people to upgrade from 2.2.x to 3.0-pickyourflavor. Failure to provide this mechanism seems counter productive. However, there are a lot of 3.x systems out there that need updating, and the existing tools don't work... On Wed, 30 Dec 1998, Russell L. Carter wrote: > > > People aren't sufficiently committed to keeping the upgrade process in > > > working order. It's now broken in several ways. Looks like a binary > > > upgrade is the only feasible option. Sigh. > > > > [...] > > > > > I would of course love to see the aout-to-elf target continue to work > > in this migration process but I can only go after the /boot problems, > > which I have a few ideas on (mostly copying stuff into there on a.out > > systems using the contents of /usr/mdec). If more than this is broken, > > I suggest tugging on the sleeves of those responsible and asking them > > how we're going to get everyone forcefully migrated to ELF on the 6th > > of Jan if there's no real mechanism for the -current folks to do it. > > First: I agree with the sentiments entirely. Second: Why not start > shouting now, with a HEADSUP storm converging on Jan 6 to get people > off their butts? I started my aout-to-elf process on the three work > systems I maintain for orthogonal reasons, but it has still taken > a couple of weeks (as a background process) > to move three operational systems providing important > (but not mission critical) services more or less transparently to > elf. Including sorting through the aout-vs-elf bugs which are > the start of this thread. > > It's another danes with axes kinda problem, and communication helps. > Ignore the whiners who would rather type than switch. > > Russell > > > > > > > - Jordan > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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