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Date:      Sun, 12 Sep 1999 00:52:16 -0500 (CDT)
From:      David Scheidt <dscheidt@enteract.com>
To:        Francisco Reyes <francisco@natserv.com>
Cc:        FreeBSd Chat list <chat@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Running email servers from home the easy way.
Message-ID:  <Pine.NEB.3.96.990912001119.94794F-100000@shell-2.enteract.com>
In-Reply-To: <199909120352.XAA24908@vulcan.addy.com>

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On Sat, 11 Sep 1999, Francisco Reyes wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 22:26:59 -0500 (CDT), David Scheidt wrote:
> 
> >On Sat, 11 Sep 1999, Francisco Reyes wrote:
> >> Anyone thinking of doing email at home should check out Dmail
> >> from http://netwinsite.com/
> >> It is free for up to 5 users.
> >
> >What do you get over qmail, postfix or even plain ole sendmail,
> 
> Easy installation of a POP server, MTA and list server.
> 
POP:
su - root
cd /usr/ports/mail/popper
make && make install
sed s/^#pop3/pop3/ /etc/inetd.conf > /tmp/inetd.conf && mv /tmp/inetd.conf \
    /etc/inetd.conf

MTA: 
sendmail works out of the box.  

List server:
su - root
cd /usr/ports/mail/majordomo
make && make install
configure it, which is a PIA, I admit.

Alternativly, go grab listar from www.listar.org.  It works quite nicely on
*BSD.  (I plan on turning it into a port, just as soon as I figure that out.
Is there a reference on how to do that? )


> >besides limits?
> 
> For some people who have a small setup this is a non issue.
> In my home FreeBSD I have only added one user.
> 

My home machines have zero users other than me.  The machine on my desk at
work has two or three users, runs a group mailing list, and such.  All free
software, 90% of which worked out of the box.  (I made popper and listar;
total time invested: less than 2 hours.

> 
> All things in life have a price. You pay with your wallet or you
> pay with your time.
> Given that I did not pay for this program, it works with my
> current and foreseable future needs, I don't see why I shoudl
> not use it or recommend it to people in simmilar situations.

That's fine.  Most of what you get works out of the box, though the couple
things that don't, are easy enough to make work.  

> 
> To think that Open Source and all things free are the only and
> best solutions for ALL situations is depriving oneself from
> examining alternatives which may be better.

The best solutions in this case are the open source ones.  There are
certainly things that there are no good open source  solutions for, and in
those cases, I will use a commerical product.  

> 
> Postfix. Looked at the web page and seemed more complex than I
> cared to deal with.

Postfix configuration isn't fun.  

> Sendmail may carry most of the mail in the web, but surely it is
> not due to how easy it is to use and implement.

But for most people, it works out of the box on FreeBSD.  It appears that
for the people that the free version  of dmail works for, will have the
default sendmail setup work.

> 
> Qmail I never got to look at so I can't comment, but I read a

qmail's big advantage is that it scales really well to multiple servers
delivering to the same mailfiles.  I know of a number of 15,000 user shops
that have qmail running and solving their problems.  The shortcommings are a
number of legacy tools (most notably, elm) which have no suport for maildir.


David Scheidt



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