Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 12:35:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG> To: Luigi Rizzo <luigi@FreeBSD.ORG> Cc: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@FreeBSD.ORG>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/talk display.c talk.1 talk.c Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1020714123332.25880E-100000@fledge.watson.org> In-Reply-To: <20020714093012.D74633@iguana.icir.org>
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On Sun, 14 Jul 2002, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 12:14:35PM -0400, Robert Watson wrote: > ... > > FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT supports 'security.bsd.bsd_see_other_uids' which > > limits the flow of inter-user information. Try setting it to 0 sometime. > > ok, i also learned that there is a similar option under -stable (with a > different name of course :) ), but the problem is that both default to 1 > ("we live in a nice world") The setting in -STABLE doesn't limit procfs or socket information sharing, and so isn't a complete solution. In fact, it was recently posted to bugtraq for having its documented behavior (which seemed a bit weak to me). The -CURRENT solution is much more comprehensive. > I'd suggest setting the default to 0 in -current, also to give some time > to realize how much breakage this could cause in users' scripts and the > like. This was discussed at one point, and my impression was that people didn't like the idea. The MAC module implementing the same behavior actually supports a notion of exemption, so if we were to default it to on, a recent behavior would be to exempt members of the operator group. Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Projects robert@fledge.watson.org Network Associates Laboratories To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message
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