Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 22:45:58 +0000 From: Carmel NY <carmel_ny@outlook.com> To: "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Re: Re: exFAT is no longer encumbered Message-ID: <SN6PR04MB502131F7EBAC7EEC543C08D880270@SN6PR04MB5021.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> In-Reply-To: <CABx9NuQvp5-J37ZmCmh6cNz4V0oXnV5xyq=SuXunbT0FJVJyKQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <1921981.4WAli8B44Z@no.place.like.home> <20191230013752.GA74518@neutralgood.org> <CAP7rwcg=PExuCP0S=FykdkcW4-cnEa35mQfSfzVC8Ku8JmjKFg@mail.gmail.com> <SN6PR04MB5021821432ABCF8D5F1BA48C80270@SN6PR04MB5021.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> <CABx9NuQvp5-J37ZmCmh6cNz4V0oXnV5xyq=SuXunbT0FJVJyKQ@mail.gmail.com>
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--Sig_/qU4lDr1NmGzJY43Hjz1xuOP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 11:59:09 -0800, Russell Haley stated: >On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 3:41 AM Carmel NY <carmel_ny@outlook.com> >wrote: > >> On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 18:51:41 -0700, Adam Weinberger stated: =20 >> >On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 6:38 PM Kevin P. Neal <kpn@neutralgood.org> >> >wrote: =20 >> >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 01:01:52AM -0600, Greg Rivers wrote: =20 >> >> > As of last August, Microsoft have relaxed the patent >> >> > restrictions on exFAT[1]. >> >> > >> >> > Can the Makefile LICENSE_PERMS_MSPAT restrictions be removed >> >> > from sysutils/fusefs-exfat? Might exFAT make it into the >> >> > FreeBSD base system (like msdosfs) one day? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > [1] >> >> > < =20 >> https://cloudblogs.microsoft.com/opensource/2019/08/28/exfat-linux-kerne= l/ >> =20 >> > =20 >> >> > =20 >> >> >> >> I'm not sure that counts as a license. IANAL, but I'd like to see >> >> an explicit granting of a license to anyone at no cost, and the >> >> license needs to be transferable. >> >> >> >> The way Berkeley eliminated the advertising clause was good. >> >> Simply saying "Microsoft is supporting the addition of" doesn't >> >> really say anything. It's a statement of corporate direction and >> >> nothing else. =20 >> > >> >Expanding on what Kevin said, >> > =20 >> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/mtl/exfat-lic= ensing.aspx >> =20 >> >suggests that (a) exFAT is still patented and restricted as before, >> >and (b) GPLv2 licensing was granted only for the Linux kernel module >> >that they submitted. >> > >> >The BSD License grants the ability to use BSD-licensed code in >> >commercial products, so I'm not sure that Microsoft would want to >> >relax their licensing for us. As Kevin said, IANAL. >> > >> ># Adam =20 >> >> I imagine that someone could actually inquire. It would cost nothing >> and end this FUD that is surrounding this subject. >> >> http://aka.ms/celaiplicensing >> =20 >On my phone the site displays a "Contoso, Ltd." title (That's >Microsoft's pretend company for all it's examples). The IP Address >resolves to a seemingly non-Microsoft server: >waws-prod-bay-059.cloudapp.net [23.99.91.55]. To boot, there is no >corporate branding or other links back to the Microsoft site. Forgive >me, but it seems like a terrible idea to submit information to that >site. That link leads to: https://celaiplicensing.microsoftcrmportals.com/IPlicensing/ <microsoftcrmportals.com> is owned by Microsoft. I am not sure what your specific complaint is. --=20 Carmel --Sig_/qU4lDr1NmGzJY43Hjz1xuOP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEIQb/tTwl6I1ueEVtOHMGOIfexWQFAl4Kfh0ACgkQOHMGOIfe xWS6iAgAjPsf5aaQ1sBIIT0ieC3Yho04tE2fzfOSNk2DTl20jzbhj5THwiCWNc9j rtwGNdx1NJ6TwRIwbyNksocTRoTku18qZ13mfL5XKioL4RojVNbZZKPOpyoJmqjv TTvQ7I6jY4z2NPrW/g9d1HMf8sGPnXRROc+vAiwnporfPYz7ONhhrdxJ0XYyQcAR SUFwcvZVcbrE49QE0DoUb+e3VtYm7kKxrYG2VYtifHZqhABKr2BLzYOFMI5HtJxs LLXsjxyAdIAW9b0YW/tr1J+ZqvEyWsuxYqNeTHHQ+CuFD7YqFqRInTmH+7Z5a962 uPmVQCZBXixqF7oQQgywHfUxUeSdIg== =WflW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/qU4lDr1NmGzJY43Hjz1xuOP--
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