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Date:      Fri, 06 Nov 1998 13:43:18 +0100 (CET)
From:      Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl>
To:        Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu>
Cc:        advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
Subject:   Re: Linux "best of breed?"
Message-ID:  <XFMail.981106134318.asmodai@wxs.nl>
In-Reply-To: <v04011707b267da707674@[128.113.24.47]>

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On 06-Nov-98 Garance A Drosihn wrote:
> At 2:24 PM -0700 11/5/98, Brett Glass wrote:
>> Ahem! It's beginning to sound as if these Linux memos, leaked
>> by Linux zealots, are a little too self-serving to be real.
>>
>> Maybe a word or two from the FreeBSD PR machine might be useful
>> here.  Oh, I forgot: FreeBSD doesn't DO PR.
> 
> I'm hearing more about freebsd and openbsd than I used to.  It
> seems to me that things are improving.

Let me stress yer point even more, when I was in university last year, all I
heard about was Linux this, Linux that. Not surprisingly that many of us only
knew of one open UNIX, namely Linux. Ye can understand my estactic cheer when
I discovered FreeBSD at work along with a part-time/freelance UNIX guru here
in the Netherlands. He taught me a lot about UNIX and got me hooked on
FreeBSD by the sheer logic of it all... Needless to say FreeBSD is still way
more logical than Linux and whenever I talk to old classmastes whom still use
Linux I will voice my opinion about FreeBSD to them.
 
> But even ignoring that, what *exactly* do you think the FreeBSD
> project should do for this specific instance?  Send email to
> news.com saying "Oh yeah?  We're best of breed, not Linux!".
> news.com is just reporting this story, and it is a valid story
> for them to report.  We don't need to go running around after
> every story about Linux and say "HEY, WE EXIST TOO, OVER HERE,
> OVER HERE, PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!!!".  We need to write our own
> stories, and make our own case for our own project.

No, yer right, the least thing we want to achieve is being viewed as a bunch
of whiners who think they are getting behind in PR with regard to Linux.

> Seems to me that several people have been encouraging FreeBSD
> users to do just that.  Write our own stories, talking about
> our own goals.  Running after every Linux story just makes us
> look like we don't have anything of our own to say, other than
> we want to get in on Linux's fame.  I think that's the wrong
> kind of PR to have.

Indeed, Linux' history != *BSD history. In fact we predate Linux. On a side
note, isn't it very handy to unite the three free BSD's by means of a bar on
the homepage and providing a quick jump point to those sites?

                     FreeBSD | NetBSD | OpenBSD

Just a thought,

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Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai
asmodai(at)wxs.nl
Junior Network/Security Specialist
FreeBSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve...

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