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Date:      Mon, 13 Sep 1999 11:20:55 +0930 (CST)
From:      "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
To:        Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
Cc:        FreeBSD-chat <freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG>, "Jason C. Wells" <jcwells@u.washington.edu>
Subject:   RE: Good News! FreeBSD monopoly! (Was: Good News! Commercial Bac
Message-ID:  <XFMail.990913112055.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19990912192050.04abebc0@localhost>

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On 13-Sep-99 Brett Glass wrote:
>  thereby possessing considerable leverage over them and the project. It hosts
>  the project's Web site and the "FreeBSD Mall" Web site (the only source of
>  FreeBSD-related products mentioned on the project's Web site.) It is the
>  distributor of FreeBSD CD-ROMs mentioned on the FreeBSD Web site or in
>  its literature, even though there are others. 

So switch to NetBSD then. 
Stop trying to protect people who are NOT naive about these things and NOT too
stupid too care. You are just making people hate you more and more by showing
how little you actually respect their intellect.

>  shut them down at any time by asserting its ownership of the trademark.
>  They could even sue Cheap Bytes for mistakenly printing, on every CD-ROM,
>  FreeBSD is a trademark of FreeBSD, Inc. when it is not.

Well given they suck pretty hard (from what I hear) I wouldn't really mind.

> >Brett isn't raising good points. Brett is raising Brett's points. 
>  The fact that they provoke such a strong response from you suggests that
>  they may be good points indeed.

Probably not, they're just plain emotional manipulation to get people's hackles
up.

> >Nearly all of Brett's messages hail the impending doom of FreeBSD. 
>  Not so. I've pointed out, however, that FreeBSD is losing market share and
>  is being crowded out of its niche by Linux. 

What a positive statement! I'm so reasured by your continuing support for
FreeBSD.

> >I say that Brett's discussion here does FreeBSD harm.
>  I say that it has revealed some nagging problems which are doing FreeBSD
>  You're blaming the messenger.

*THATs* a cop out. 'You can't critisize me - I'm just the messenger' 
I'll say what a lot of other people have said, you state the problem without
suggesting any decent solutions. Not exactly constructive critisism.

---
Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer
for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au
"The nice thing about standards is that there
are so many of them to choose from."
  -- Andrew Tanenbaum

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