Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2022 21:23:25 +0100 From: Tomasz Rola <rtomek@ceti.pl> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GNOME discussions Message-ID: <Y17dPUIWEy/AvcGw@tau1.ceti.pl> In-Reply-To: <3507971d-e9fc-0531-5a63-f22f13854476@freebsd.org> References: <c9a4ee2d3a9cb81d6131854027e4860e@ltcddata.plus.com> <15e8931aefdad251e9410889360925826b690d8a.camel@riseup.net> <b49e74b6-778b-f970-1e8e-2ad66e92f9a0@freebsd.org> <f273926c4e3b5c47f1cf46f4b8206346606afce0.camel@riseup.net> <3507971d-e9fc-0531-5a63-f22f13854476@freebsd.org>
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On Sun, Oct 30, 2022 at 03:30:51PM +0000, Graham Perrin wrote: > On 30/10/2022 13:54, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > … It was announced somewhere else way earlier. … > > > Most likely. > > > > Discourse in the way it's set up by the GNOME foundation is a PITA. > > Not if you use the web interface. > > My first post: <https://discourse.gnome.org/t/-/11889/3?u=grahamperrin>; > > > If you want to use the GNOME Discourse mailing list feature … > Why not use the web interface? Those of us, who are on many mailing lists, prefer to have it all in one simple to use interface, called MUA (mail user agent). I really have no time to jump on twenty or thirty tabs to see if something changed, find where the change is, reload, reload, javascript restart, javascript restart, page down, page down... The number of tabs - you think I am making this number up? no, I am not... With text-based MUA called mutt I can have it opened on terminal, have a look every few hours and see, for example, two new messages posted with subjects I want to follow. The software does the job it is supposed to be doing and I am free to be doing what I am supposed etc. Rather than spent many minutes a day sliding windows and what not. Since I never used Discourse, I have no idea if it can aggregate from multiple forums/discussion lists. If not, I have to kick it out of my sight. Because useless. If it cannot let me quickly search over few thousands of posts, useless - I do it more than once a day and few thousands is minimal requirement. If it does not work when the server is down, useless - ok, I cannot get new mails when server is down, but I can still work on old ones, write new ones and put them into send queue, and so on. They will be sent out when server goes up, without any intervention or attention on my side required. If it requires Javascript to work, unsecure. If it cannot reproduce text verbatim, if it cannot show itself up properly with monospace font (like, Terminus, Dejavu Mono etc), then it is also ugly and tiresome for my eyes. Oh, BTW, if it cannot be driven from the keyboard _exclusively_, no mouse touched for many hours in a row, then it is also slooooow and poorly designed. Last two points are more like my personal opinion, but I have never seen web interface as fast as terminal based one. The closest to it were pages served before Javascript took over everything but after network speeds went into tens of megabits. So, it is not about me disliking web or something. It is just that the offer is so lacking in functionality and it cannot beat stuff written years ago. Thing may look differently from the point of forum admin, but I am a user. -- Regards, Tomasz Rola -- ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. ** ** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home ** ** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened... ** ** ** ** Tomasz Rola mailto:tomasz_rola@bigfoot.com **
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