Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 06:05:01 +0300 (MSK) From: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (aka Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage) <ache@astral.msk.su> To: Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org> Cc: hackers@freefall.freebsd.org, joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, kaleb@x.org Subject: Re: A couple problems in FreeBSD 2.1.0-950922-SNAP Message-ID: <YlTrnWmSC4@ache.dialup.demos.ru> In-Reply-To: <199510170239.TAA26264@phaeton.artisoft.com>; from Terry Lambert at Mon, 16 Oct 1995 19:39:54 -0700 (MST) References: <199510170239.TAA26264@phaeton.artisoft.com>
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In message <199510170239.TAA26264@phaeton.artisoft.com> Terry Lambert
writes:
>> >I can *potentially* see ispunct() (though I can't think of any
>BS. Read XPG/3, which doesn't know about multibyte characters, yet
>defines setlocale().
>It's true that calling an XPG/4 setlocale() in an 8-bit clean, multibyte
>unaware program in a runic encoded/multibyte locale will fail. The
>soloution is to fix the program.
Right now we can't use setlocale() in any code because have XPG/4
in libc. Fixing any program for XPG/4 is very non-trivial task and
you says that it not used in any case.
All ports software which calls setlocale() assumes XPG/3,
so it is already broken for runes. It seems that we needs to change
4 -> 3 and remove bloat taken by runic encoding.
>> >KOI8 is a peculiar locale in that it doesn't follow the 8859-x rules
>> >like it should. Like EBCDIC, it needs to die in the long term. On
>>
>> And WHY IT SHOULD DO anything? It is EXISTEN CODE TABLE and LOCALES
>> must be adopted for it and not vice versa. I promise you that
>> it never dies in nearest 20-40 years, its population grows
>> whith each new Internet user.
>That's too bad. I guess you will have to properly localize in order
>to use software, then, instead of taking advantage of 8859-x formulation
>rules to get 90% soloutions. Like you'd be able to do if the standard
>you chose to use met those guidelines.
I can't see why KOI8-R charset needs to follow 8859-x rules
when setlocale() called, it simple becomes loaded as is.
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