Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:19:04 -0400 From: Chris Pepper <pepper@reppep.com> To: Szilveszter Adam <sziszi@bsd.hu> Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/39824: Various tweaks for doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig/chapter.sgml; corresponding comment clarification for GENERIC Message-ID: <a05200120b94fa2ed3431@[129.85.219.160]> In-Reply-To: <20020708200642.GG1126@fonix.adamsfamily.xx> References: <200207030020.g630K4GZ037338@freefall.freebsd.org> <a05200101b94e93ff99e7@[64.81.19.109]> <20020708183507.GE1126@fonix.adamsfamily.xx> <a05200116b94f91461122@[129.85.219.160]> <20020708200642.GG1126@fonix.adamsfamily.xx>
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At 10:06 PM +0200 2002/07/08, Szilveszter Adam wrote: >On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 03:00:59PM -0400, Chris Pepper wrote: >> Yep, that's you. I looked in there, added USB modules, and >> made my system un-bootable for a while, so I'm not ready to take on >> an explanation of how to load modules. > >I'm sorry to hear that you experienced problems. However, that's how it >is supposed to work in theory, but in practice not everything may have >been groovy. I'll send email to -questions as soon as I nail down a few details for the problem description. I'm glad I understood the theory, at least. > > Does the ipfw stuff in /etc/defaults/rc.conf depend on >> manually adding ipfw to /boot/loader.conf to work? I've been looking >> for info on loading modules, but it's pretty sparse. > >AFAIK, ipfw can be made to work in this way too. Some modules even >should be able to load themselves on-demand before they are first >needed, but I do not know what are these. (One tip: do not expect this >method to work with the msdosfs module and a floppy) That's a biggie -- all the IPFW docs (man page & handbook) says a kernel rebuild is required; neither source, nor /etc/defaults/rc.conf (which provides a bunch of switches to activate and configure IPFW) provides any information on enabling the firewall without a kernel rebuild, which I'm told is the *right* way to do it. Still searching.... >Unfortunately, on -CURRENT it is not advisable to have modules (it >crashes enough as is) so I have everything compiled into the kernel. And >my machine is slow, so compiling new kernels to test this would take a >long time... however, this may be a good project for someone with a >gigahertz machine, I am told kernel builds really take no time on >those:-))) About 45min on a Celeron 1.1GHz w/ 384mb, but I'm trying to test the assertion that I shouldn't need to rebuild the kernel. I've switched back to GENERIC, and hope that makes bug/crash reporting easier. My current problem is an impressive lack of documentation for loading modules. Chris Pepper -- Chris Pepper: <http://www.reppep.com/~pepper/>; Rockefeller University: <http://www.rockefeller.edu/>; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message
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