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Date:      Mon, 2 Dec 2002 11:05:29 +0100
From:      Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
To:        "Craig Reyenga" <creyenga@connectmail.carleton.ca>
Cc:        "Terry Lambert" <tlambert2@mindspring.com>, <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, "Christopher J Olson" <chriso@tamu.edu>
Subject:   Re: Any ideas at all about network problem?
Message-ID:  <a05200f26ba10df70dc1d@[146.106.12.76]>
In-Reply-To: <001001c299c7$766a6120$0200000a@sewer.org>
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At 12:55 AM -0500 2002/12/02, Craig Reyenga wrote:

>  I just tried a 3com 3c905 NIC (my roommate's) and it _also_
>  transfers slowly (about 3.5MB/sec, so just under half of what i used to
>  get with my realtek in -stable). It also spit out a few messages:

	According to all the source modules I've read regarding RealTek 
cards, they're about the biggest pieces of hardware garbage that has 
ever been inflicted on the free/open community.  However, a 3Com card 
should be a little better.  Have you tried replacing both RealTek 
cards with 3Com, to see if that changes things?

>  I'd really rather not play around with different versions of FreeBSD to
>  fix this problem, because this computer is where I keep all of my stuff,
>  and with exams, I just won't have the time. Yes I know that I "shouldn't be
>   using 5.0 then" but a problem is a problem and it should be fixed.

	Yeah, well.  Regrettably, while 5.x-CURRENT needs as many testers 
as it can get before 5.0-RELEASE, it is not something that people 
should be using for critical work.  I agree that this is a problem, 
but what we need right now are people who can help us find problems 
(which you've done) but then can also go the next steps and help us 
locate the problem (which you are unwilling or unable to do).

	As soon as I get a couple of other things squared away, I'm going 
to take the leap myself and start trying to run -CURRENT, but with 
the commitment that I will do everything I can to locate any bugs 
that I find.  But this means that I need to make sure that my FreeBSD 
box is doing useful (but not critical) stuff, so that I can give it a 
semi "real world" test.


	At the very least, try DP1.  If that doesn't work, then the 
changes happened somewhere earlier, and they will be more difficult 
to track down.  Either that, or the problem is actually somewhere 
else, and you're only seeing the results through your network 
transfers.

-- 
Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles@skynet.be>

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
     -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania.

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