Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2024 13:08:53 +0200 From: Daniel Engberg <daniel.engberg.lists@pyret.net> To: Gleb Popov <arrowd@freebsd.org> Cc: Harry Schmalzbauer <freebsd@omnilan.de>, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Rene Ladan <rene@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Another berserker victim: 03b36d9 textproc/obsidian: Remove expired port Message-ID: <a4a9e850ee5f3d8147b6a8b325024323@mail.infomaniak.com> In-Reply-To: <CALH631kWh4gm4=gOxaV3N73EpCH_J=zUBJspdv9cZpKe63Usqg@mail.gmail.com> References: <d3041641-5357-4430-9cde-9f3ae48217f7@omnilan.de> <CALH631kWh4gm4=gOxaV3N73EpCH_J=zUBJspdv9cZpKe63Usqg@mail.gmail.com>
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--_=_swift_1718536133_dd074ea5afe65c052e00854bd1dc6d23_=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2024-06-16T12:37:28.000+02:00, Gleb Popov <arrowd@freebsd.org> wrote:= >=C2=A0This=C2=A0is=C2=A0partly=C2=A0my=C2=A0fault=C2=A0as=C2=A0a= =C2=A0maintainer.=C2=A0We've=C2=A0updated=C2=A0Obsidian=C2=A0in=C2=A0our = >=C2=A0 >=C2=A0$WORK=C2=A0tree,=C2=A0but=C2=A0I=C2=A0forgot=C2=A0to=C2= =A0upstream=C2=A0it. >=C2=A0 >=C2=A0But=C2=A0I=C2=A0also=C2=A0agree= =C2=A0that=C2=A0we=C2=A0should=C2=A0make=C2=A0an=C2=A0exception=C2=A0for= =C2=A0Electron=C2=A0ports,=C2=A0because >=C2=A0 >=C2=A0-=C2=A0Electron= =C2=A0itself=C2=A0is=C2=A0pretty=C2=A0fast-moving,=C2=A0but=C2=A0at=C2= =A0the=C2=A0same=C2=A0time=C2=A0has=C2=A0a >=C2=A0 >=C2=A0lot=C2=A0of= =C2=A0commercial=C2=A0consumers=C2=A0that=C2=A0aren't=C2=A0that=C2=A0keen= =C2=A0for=C2=A0keeping=C2=A0up=C2=A0with >=C2=A0 >=C2=A0its=C2=A0pace= >=C2=A0 >=C2=A0-=C2=A0We=C2=A0only=C2=A0have=C2=A0electron=C2=A0packag= e=C2=A0building=C2=A0on=C2=A0the=C2=A0cluster,=C2=A0so=C2=A0it >=C2=A0 = >=C2=A0wouldn't=C2=A0hurt=C2=A0package=C2=A0building=C2=A0side=C2=A0of= =C2=A0things=C2=A0anyway. >=C2=A0 >=C2=A0What=C2=A0do=C2=A0you=C2=A0thi= nk,=C2=A0Rene? The thing is that they're very heavy, tends to accumula= te CVEs quite fast and have a lot of dependencies that we need to maintai= n (since it's EoL upstream). We already have 4 versions in tree which is = quite a lot already.and likely quite time-consuming to maintain as it is.= >From what I can tell it also appears that almost every other distro ha= ve dropped Electron 25 as it been EoL for 6 months already. https://forum= .obsidian.md/t/electron-25-is-now-eol-please-upgrade-to-a-newer-version/728= 78 Given upstream's versioning I guess upstream recently started sup= porting a more recent version as 1.6 was released about a week ago and th= ere's an alpha release using Electron 30. I do think the correct decis= ion here was to remove it despite not having a "fix" for all consumers th= ough. Best regards, Daniel --_=_swift_1718536133_dd074ea5afe65c052e00854bd1dc6d23_=_ Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><body><div>On 2024-06-16T12:37:28.000+02:00, Gleb Popov <arrowd@fr= eebsd.org> wrote:<br></div><div ><div><br></div></div><div><br></div><di= v class=3D"ik_mail_quote answerContentMessage"><blockquote class=3D"ws-ng-q= uote"><pre style=3D"white-space: normal;"><div>This is partly my fault as a= maintainer. We've updated Obsidian in our<br></div><div>$WORK tree, but I = forgot to upstream it.<br></div><div><br></div><div>But I also agree that w= e should make an exception for Electron ports, because<br></div><div>- Elec= tron itself is pretty fast-moving, but at the same time has a<br></div><div= >lot of commercial consumers that aren't that keen for keeping up with<br><= /div><div>its pace<br></div><div>- We only have electron package building o= n the cluster, so it<br></div><div>wouldn't hurt package building side of t= hings anyway.<br></div><div><br></div><div>What do you think, Rene?<br></di= v></pre></blockquote></div><div>The thing is that they're very heavy, tends= to <span><span data-dobid=3D"hdw">accumulate CVEs quite fast and have a lo= t of dependencies that we need to maintain (since it's EoL upstream). We al= ready have 4 versions in tree which is quite a lot already.</span></span>an= d likely quite time-consuming to maintain as it is. From what I can tell it= also appears that almost every other distro have dropped Electron 25 as it= been EoL for 6 months already. <a href=3D"https://forum.obsidian.md/t/elec= tron-25-is-now-eol-please-upgrade-to-a-newer-version/72878" target=3D"_blan= k" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" data-ik=3D"ik-secure">https://forum.obsidian= .md/t/electron-25-is-now-eol-please-upgrade-to-a-newer-version/72878</a><br= ></div><div><br></div><div>Given upstream's versioning I guess upstream rec= ently started supporting a more recent version as 1.6 was released about a = week ago and there's an alpha release using Electron 30.<br></div><div><br>= </div><div>I do think the correct decision here was to remove it despite no= t having a "fix" for all consumers though.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Bes= t regards,<br></div><div>Daniel<br></div></body></html> --_=_swift_1718536133_dd074ea5afe65c052e00854bd1dc6d23_=_--
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